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Argentus
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"Why is a Sorc the fastest with polearms?"
 
   Or at least the unique ones..

One of my friends is looking to start a zealot using a 2 handed weapon, so we were looking to find a good starting weapon.

A sorc should have relatively insane speed using the Battlebranch.

I've seen melee sorc done before, but never with a two handed weapon. Who's up to the challenge?


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Why is a Sorc the fastest with polearms? [View All] Argentus 16-Apr-01 TOP
  Because, uh... because... um... Salius 16-Apr-01 1
     RE: Because, uh... because... um... Argentus 16-Apr-01 2
         RE: Because, uh... because... um... Ariel 17-Apr-01 3
             My Sorc walloped Izual with Bonesnap Deadeye 17-Apr-01 13
                 RE: My Sorc walloped Izual with Bonesnap Taktaal 17-Apr-01 15
                     ? Must've connected more often than I thought (nt) Deadeye 18-Apr-01 16
  RE: Why is a Sorc the fastest with polearms? whereagles 17-Apr-01 4
  I think I might know LiquidDamage 17-Apr-01 5
  RE: Why is a Sorc the fastest with polearms? K 29 17-Apr-01 6
  RE: Why is a Sorc the fastest with polearms? Dyslexia 17-Apr-01 7
     RE: Why is a Sorc the fastest with polearms? Argentus 17-Apr-01 8
         RE: Why is a Sorc the fastest with polearms? Quark 17-Apr-01 9
             RE: Why is a Sorc the fastest with polearms? Argentus 17-Apr-01 11
                 RE: Why is a Sorc the fastest with polearms? Dyslexia 17-Apr-01 12
                     RE: Why is a Sorc the fastest with polearms? Argentus 17-Apr-01 14
         RE: Why is a Sorc the fastest with polearms? Dyslexia 17-Apr-01 10

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Salius
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16-Apr-01, 08:33 PM (GMT)
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1. "Because, uh... because... um..."
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   I don't know. But she's also the fastest with Great Mauls (& Martels), which is kinda fun. Toss on Steeldriver (unique great maul with -50% requirements, heal stamina 25%, and GIAS) and it's a riot, plus it looks cool.

Add in Twitchthroe, which gives +10 str and SIAS, and you can equip Steeldriver as early as level 7 and be doing damage like a madwoman. Should be really easy to get through act 1 like this.


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Argentus
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2. "RE: Because, uh... because... um..."
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   hehe.. i think i'm gonna try it.

If i were to be serious about it though I'd use battlebranch, it's faster has an ar bonus and life leech. If i'm correct it's already at double very fast, so speed is maxed out on it.

Equip an Eye or frostburns for cold damage, goldskin for resists (and it looks pretty cool on a sorc), Bladebuckle (since you have to get to ~60 strength anyway, and this will help boost you to use skins), treads (or toes for big games if you don't use static). No shield... that'll be rough, but you can compensate with Eshield, i suppose.
Also max enchant to add damage. Could be pretty decent.


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Ariel
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3. "RE: Because, uh... because... um..."
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   <I>No shield... that'll be rough, but you can compensate with Eshield, i suppose.</I>

Don't forget the cold armors.


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13. "My Sorc walloped Izual with Bonesnap"
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   Bonesnap dropped for my clvl 27 hardcore sharpshooter Sorc in the Outer Steppes, I thought wtf is this now? (Answer: 150-210 damage with 50% chance of crushing blow, plus 30% fire and cold resists) Well, I wasn't using a shield anyway and I already had the 69 str it wants, so I figured, why not? Hopped over to Plains of Despair to hunt down Izual again.

Well, Izual's a pretty tough customer, and my Sorc's AR is so miserable she misses more than she hits, but when I finally connected with a crushing blow, Izzy's red bar dipped like it was hit with point-blank Static. Course, he took a few painful chunks outta me too - almost bit the dust there - but hey, even a Sorc can duke it out with the bad boys.


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15. "RE: My Sorc walloped Izual with Bonesnap"
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   Crushing blow doesnt work against Uniques.


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16. "? Must've connected more often than I thought (nt)"
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   nt


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4. "RE: Why is a Sorc the fastest with polearms?"
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   Well, they are like cheerleaders. They swing that bat real faaast


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5. "I think I might know"
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I think it is because her chosen weapon should be a staff (even though it is more likely to be a wand, the shard, or culwen's point ), and Blizz thinks that swinging a staff with two hands means she can swing any long pole (two handed hammers, polearms) just as well.

I guess they paid no attention to the complete difference in balance due to the extra heavy "business end" on poles and hammers.

LiquidDamage


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6. "RE: Why is a Sorc the fastest with polearms?"
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   Sorc are not the fastest with polearms. Sorcys may have "fast" attack speed for polearms... but that is relative only for sorcys themselves. A sorcy's "fast" attack may be slower than a barb's normal attack...


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7. "RE: Why is a Sorc the fastest with polearms?"
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   speeds for two-handed Axes, two-handed Maces (Mauls), Polearm, Staves and quest items such as Horadric Staff (both of them).

Amazon: 17
Barbarian: 18
Necromancer: 19
Paladin: 17
Sorceress: 15


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Argentus
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8. "RE: Why is a Sorc the fastest with polearms?"
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   Um.. not sure I understand that. Is it frames per swing?


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9. "RE: Why is a Sorc the fastest with polearms?"
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   bingo, and 25 frames per second.

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Argentus
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11. "RE: Why is a Sorc the fastest with polearms?"
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   hmm.. so a sorc has the potential to have one of the fastest swing rates of any class.. interesting.


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12. "RE: Why is a Sorc the fastest with polearms?"
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   >hmm.. so a sorc has the
>potential to have one of
>the fastest swing rates of
>any class.. interesting.

no, only with this type of weapons
look here for more info
http://www.lurkerlounge.com/2i/speeds.shtml


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Argentus
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14. "RE: Why is a Sorc the fastest with polearms?"
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   That's what I meant, but in addition when using this class of weapons she has the potential to be among the fastest in swing rate compared with other classes using other weapons.


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10. "RE: Why is a Sorc the fastest with polearms?"
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   base frames, yes.
you then can calculte different modifiers into the frames per swing equation, such as SIAS gloves and stuff


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