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TempestTenor
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14-Apr-01, 01:13 PM (GMT)
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"Bad...frames....eyes...twitching.....fist....in....monitor....."
 
   This is killing me. The frames on D2 are very bad for me. Whenever I go to town or go to any new place, my frames will drop to about 2 for 10 seconds or so. And for about 7 of those 10 seconds, the screen is just completely frozen. But that part is all right for I can't get killed in town. But...not only does the frame rate drop when I enter a new "environment," it also drops when I encounter enemies!!! GOD DAMMIT!!! All the time!!! I'm on my merry way exploring the scenic landscape of Act 4 Hell and suddenly the screen freezes, I hear my computer making that "working" or "processing" sound, then 10 seconds later my carcass is surrounded by venom lords and corpulents.
I don't have a 3d card so I've got it on software rendering. I've turned the music off, I've turned all the video options to their lowest settings. I've copied that .mpq file to my DiabloII directory. My computer is an Intel Celeron 566Mhz with 64MB of RAM and 11MB of it allocated to video memory. And as my computer savvy friend pointed out, that basically means that I have 53MB of RAM...

Please...can somebody help me? Is getting more RAM the only solution to this problem???


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Bad...frames....eyes...twitching.....fist....in....monitor..... [View All] TempestTenor 14-Apr-01 TOP
  More RAM Targetam 14-Apr-01 1
     RE: More RAM _osiris 14-Apr-01 2
  RE: Bad...frames....eyes...twitching.....fist....in....monit... vor_lord 14-Apr-01 3
     RE: Bad...frames....eyes...twitching.....fist....in....monit... TempestTenor 14-Apr-01 4
         RE: Bad...frames....eyes...twitching.....fist....in....monit... vor_lord 14-Apr-01 5
  Its the new 1.05B patch.... BountyH 15-Apr-01 6
     RE: Its the new 1.05B patch.... vor_lord 15-Apr-01 7
         RE: Its the new 1.05B patch.... steef 15-Apr-01 8
             RE: Its the new 1.05B patch.... Mavfinadmin 15-Apr-01 9
                 RE: Its the new 1.05B patch.... PalaBEN 15-Apr-01 10
     RE: Its the new 1.05B patch.... Ajax 16-Apr-01 12
  Possible Solution FoxBat 15-Apr-01 11

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Targetam
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14-Apr-01, 01:43 PM (GMT)
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1. "More RAM"
In response to message #0
 
   My set up is similar - Celeron 500, all files copied over, music turned off, and play in 2D mode. However, I have 256MB of RAM, and rarely get into trouble with low frame rates, except when *everyone* is experiencing the lag. Heavy fire graphics will knock down my machine, but if there is that much fire on the screen, it's my own .

RAM is the most likely answer, alas.

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_osiris
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14-Apr-01, 02:22 PM (GMT)
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2. "RE: More RAM"
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   i got 128mb and never drop below 50fps.. but i noticed one thing, if i have the music turned off, the cd needs to start up again during new monster encounters, or new areas. by keeping the music on (assuming yuo're streaming it from the disc), your cd won't need to spin up to access the data> Maybe this will help the freezes, as i freeze too when it needs to load from the cd.


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vor_lord
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14-Apr-01, 04:03 PM (GMT)
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3. "RE: Bad...frames....eyes...twitching.....fist....in....monitor....."
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   I had a Celeron 266 (o/c to 400).... i.e. the old cacheless Celeron with 64Meg of RAM.

I too ran in software mode, but with the music on. I did have a 4Meg Video card.

Things would occasionally slow down (put a few necros with skeleton armies and it would be bad) and loading levels was slow, but not as bad as you describe.

Allocating 11Meg of your system RAM to video RAM isn't the same as having video RAM.

What is your video card?


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TempestTenor
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14-Apr-01, 04:13 PM (GMT)
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4. "RE: Bad...frames....eyes...twitching.....fist....in....monitor....."
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   I'm not sure what video card I have, but it's not a 3d one. Where do you check to see what video card you have? I'm looking in System in the Control Panel but I can't find anything.


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vor_lord
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14-Apr-01, 04:20 PM (GMT)
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5. "RE: Bad...frames....eyes...twitching.....fist....in....monitor....."
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   I think you right click on the desktop, go to properties and find video adapter?

Someone else better answer that though, I'm in Linux right now and can't check to make sure...


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BountyH
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15-Apr-01, 00:12 AM (GMT)
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6. "Its the new 1.05B patch...."
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   Ever since that came in even in Single Player the game lags like mad.

I'm using a 1 GHz Thunderbird, 128MB, etc. and further more, I'm running on No-CD and Single Player still lags for about 3-5 secs at a time and is very jerky throughout the "new area loadings". Even if I TP up and down to areas I'm currently doing, the game still lags. The only consolation is there is no "freeze up, and then speed up" latency in Single Player.

Blizzard wanted to make Duriel easier by preloading areas. But I think they might have accidentally pre-loaded the entire Act at a time.

I'm not sure if more RAM will help. But I hope Blizzard puts it back the way it was. I'd much rather sacrifice a hireling in Duriel's Orafice than lag my entire game from Act 1 to 4.

Your 64MB RAM is just minimal for Multiplayer. Maybe you can free up your system resources up somemore. I assume you know the routine to End all tasks on your computer except "Explorer" & "Systray".

But you should also look into your "Network Neighborhood" to see how many Profiles you have running. eg. TCP/IP, IPX/SX, Dialup adapter, etc. Make sure that all you need there is being used to play Diablo2 (eg. Dialup if you're using modem, TCP/IP for Internet, etc) having extras of those things comsumes your system resources as well.

You can also drop your graphics settings in Diablo2's Options.

Hardware-wise, you can either get more RAM or get a 2D/3D Graphic card. Even some adventure games require 3D acceleration nowadays. But I'm not sure how reusable DRAM will be once P4s start using DDR and RAMBUS. That's why I got a TB instead so I can stretch the life of my RAM as well.

But the main culprit is the pre-loading code in 1.05B. Blizzard just made it worst throughout game. Duriel still lags a bit (no tactical advantage, at most it gives you an extra second or 2, most players have learned to live with it already, so there is no improvement.)

Just ask yourself what is the likelihood that Blizzard will set it back, then take a deep breath and next time don't take the "scenic route" in Act 4 Hell and keep your guard up.


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vor_lord
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15-Apr-01, 11:11 AM (GMT)
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7. "RE: Its the new 1.05B patch...."
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   I have a 1GHz Athlon, 256Meg of RAM, and I thought the 1.05B patch helped quite a bit with new area loading. I don't hardly notice any lag in new areas at all (so much for my excuses when I die

I wonder if there is a specific issue here that could be tracked down. How fast is your HD? I just got a brand new IBM 7200 RPM one and that probably helps a lot.


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steef
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15-Apr-01, 12:18 PM (GMT)
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8. "RE: Its the new 1.05B patch...."
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   I noticed a big difference between 128 and 256 MB of RAM. For a while I was going between those two ammounts and the difference was very noticeable. I now have settled at a happy medium of 384 MB.


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Mavfinadmin
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15-Apr-01, 12:22 PM (GMT)
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9. "RE: Its the new 1.05B patch...."
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   Yeah. 256 was better, but 384 takes pretty much all of it out for me. (G4/500, 7200 RPM drive, 384 MB)

Also, a P3/800, 16 MB Rage Pro 128 (nothing special) 256 MB, with a 7200 RPM drive is almost as good as the above.

It's all in the configuration. It's not *just* the processor and video card.

--Mavfin


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PalaBEN
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15-Apr-01, 04:46 PM (GMT)
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10. "RE: Its the new 1.05B patch...."
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   I only have 833Mhz, 128 megs of RAM (can't remeber the HD) and like a 16MB video card (not 3D) and my Diablo II runs smooth as hell in Single.

PalaBEN -
"Devoutley following the LIGHT"


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Ajax
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16-Apr-01, 03:02 AM (GMT)
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12. "RE: Its the new 1.05B patch...."
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   I think I experienced a similar problem when the 1.05 patch was released. I have a G3 Mac with a RAGE 128 video card, and when 1.05 came out the RAGE video rendering was compatible with DII. I selected it in the options dialogue, and began drooling at the "glow" of the waypoints, and the blue/green tint on the player screen when chilled/posioned.

However, I began to experience that horrible "lag" you guys are speaking of. For example, my paly would charge somebody, and when they would go to shatter, the screen would hold long enough for me to skip like 6 tracks on my stereo. I mean, it was bad.

My solution? I switched the rendering from RAGE back to Software. I haven't noticed this agonizing pausing stuff any more.

Hope this helps.


--Ajax
"Never would he die on foreign soil,
Without advancing beyond his men and his peers.
His head would be turned towards the enemies' land,
And he would end his days as a conqueror."(2865-2868)


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FoxBat
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15-Apr-01, 05:13 PM (GMT)
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11. "Possible Solution"
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   Ack, its the 64 megs :/ From what I heard, 92 is pretty much essential for enjoyable multiplay.

This might help, but I dunno if it will work for your low mem setup:

First, defrag your HD. Then, go set your virtual memory to a fixed min and max of 1.5 the size of your actual memory (so 100 megs for your system). Then, download

http://www.analogx.com/contents/download/system/cb.htm

and choose "gaming" preset, apply changes and reboot. This fixed my load-lag problems.

BTW, doesen't this belong in the Lounge rather than the Armoury?


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