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Diablo II Mechanics and Statistics
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Ironx
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14-Jun-01, 00:21 AM (GMT) |
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" Seem to be getting more at 125%..."
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I've been building a MF Barb for the past few days, and i am puzzled to notice that i seemed to be finding more Uniques/rares with 125% magicfind. I had to replace my 25% Helm with a FHR + HP (That's 125% left) one temporarily as i was lacking vitality. He was about level 23-26 in act 2 normal when i found 5 uniques in one day alone, and found 2 uniques in each of the 2 games...the remainding one was found in another game. At about level 28, i switched back to my 25% helm and have a total of 150%. In the next 2 days, i have found not even a single unique, and the amount of rares were neligable..it was like 1 or was it 2 ?. Anyways, i wasn't picking up many rares with 125%. Just uniques. This has been very puzzling as i have heard that 150% is the best % to find rares (exceptional or not). I"m now level 32 and in nightmare act 2. Should i continue to go with 150% or 125% ? Or maybe switching back to 150% when i reached hell ? MY piority's are on the uniques right now, as there aren't many good rares to be found in nightmare (except rings, amulets, etc).
So now what ? |
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ignatz
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14-Jun-01, 02:17 AM (GMT) |
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1. "RE: Seem to be getting more at 125%..."
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You know, I seem to have noticed exactly the same thing. I was at 150% exactly until recently and I dropped down to 126% and started finding uniques and rares like mad. I have no idea why. One theory, and it's probably a poor one, is that characters have inherent magic find percentages that vary by class. Sounds silly? Maybe so..but Barbs with 0% seem to find many MANY more rares than Paladins or Sorcies at 0%. I wonder if the more item-dependant classes have a 25% bonus to mf% or something similar... No reasonable idea how to test this though. 
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babs
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14-Jun-01, 03:02 AM (GMT) |
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3. "RE: Seem to be getting more at 125%..."
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Ya, I'm building a zon for gambling in clasic d2 while I send my main chars to the xpack. She has like 40mf and seems to get a lot more than my main zon who has 202? Although my main zon seems to get better mods. Both are in act 4 hell, I know its supposed to just be the lvl of the monster that you kill that effects the drop but my lvl 82 gets way better mods but fewer rares to drop than my 65. Does anyone know if thats becuase of the lvl difference, the mf difference, or just luck.?
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shadoemage
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14-Jun-01, 10:42 AM (GMT) |
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4. "250 find is better than 125"
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You just have to play a lot and let it average out.
You can't just go on one game. Play 30 games and you'll see that 250 is better than 125...
SM
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Corrupt_Jenova
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14-Jun-01, 01:25 PM (GMT) |
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5. "RE: 250 find is better than 125"
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Figures...what some of you dont realize is that infact your MF has a good chance of being naturally like 50% if its a 10th character you make on that account (i.e 10, 20, 30, 40) Now, keep this in mind with the fact that over 250 magic find wont give you jack, and the reason barbs seem to get more stuff, is cause, naturally, they kill things faster tna any class mind zons, but they cant always scan everywhere Just my 2 cents
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Shedrock
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16-Jun-01, 11:51 PM (GMT) |
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7. "Solved"
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A month or 2 ago, Diabloii.net ran an article about magic find. Some guy ran all the number combinations, and a surprising result emerged. Because of the complex way that D2 adds the MF amount, the chance of finding rares actually GOES DOWN between 150 and 187 MF (I forgot the exact high number.) His conclusion was that if you cannot get about 190+ MF items, try to get as close to 149 as possible without hitting 150.
You stated you were running at exactly 150 MF, this explains your drops.
Try to find the article. |
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Rinkler
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17-Jun-01, 07:06 PM (GMT) |
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9. "Found the easy to find ;)"
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LAST EDITED ON 06-18-01 AT 08:52 PM (PDT) I read over the MF discovery in the "Discoveries" and noticed that the breaking point is 151%, not 150%. Maybe I read wrong, but that would mean that you should still be finding the same or probably more rares/unqiues at 150% than 125%. And also, the game sometimes depends on the drops. I find absolutely nothing in some games, (I have a lvl 59 MF barb. 174% MF) 5+ rares in merely one section (findin 7 in Sewers lvl 1 was most), or find merely a unique and a mass of magics. Also, at the Chaos Sanctuary, I found that table with the various MF and your chance to find items at that % MF. The link is: http://pf.chemeng.lth.se/diablo2/magprob.txt I think that is what u were talking about. Well, hope that helps. -Rink EDIT: Typos. |
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Jarulf also wrote a table showing the % chance of getting Rare Exceptionals at various levels, but that'd take a minute or two to find :\