Is this an intended feature, bug or exploit?
Has this been in the game for a while?
Just wondering
Full Version: Warrior Rage bug/exploit
In the last two weeks it seems some of the Warriors in my guild have been playing around with a rage bug that allows them to generate full rage without engaging a mob. It has something to do if you have Tactical Mastery and Anger Management. All they do is target a level 1 creature and somehow get into combat and build rage. I have played a Warrior to 60 but have never tried to duplicate this.
Is this an intended feature, bug or exploit?
Has this been in the game for a while?
Just wondering
Is this an intended feature, bug or exploit?
Has this been in the game for a while?
Just wondering
QUOTE(Sword_of_Doom @ Mar 2 2006, 03:06 PM)
In the last two weeks it seems some of the Warriors in my guild have been playing around with a rage bug that allows them to generate full rage without engaging a mob. It has something to do if you Tactical Mastery and Anger Management. All they do is target a level 1 creature and somehow get into combat and build rage. I have played a Warrior to 60 but have never tried to duplicate this.
Is this an intended feature, bug or exploit?
Has this been in the game for a while?
Just wondering
Is this an intended feature, bug or exploit?
Has this been in the game for a while?
Just wondering
It has been in the game for a while, it has been communicated in the warrior forum to Tseric, it is unclear whether anything will be done about it. Anger Management is under review, and if it has the 1 rage per tick removed from it, then this will no longer be an issue.
Requirement:
Must have Anger management
Re-creation:
Right click on a mob (as if to attack it) from well outside aggro radius
Hit Bloodrage (this puts you in combat for the duration of bloodrage)
You will never leave combat, and since anger management generates 1 rage per tick, eventually you will tick to 100 rage.
However this takes a long time. Bloodrage is 10 seconds for 24 rage. You must remain in combat for another ~3 minutes to be completely full on rage.
QUOTE(Concillian @ Mar 2 2006, 11:12 PM)
It has been in the game for a while, it has been communicated in the warrior forum to Tseric, it is unclear whether anything will be done about it.
Requirement:
Must have Anger management
Re-creation:
Right click on a mob (as if to attack it) from well outside aggro radius
Hit Bloodrage (this puts you in combat for the duration of bloodrage)
You will never leave combat, and since anger management generates 1 rage per tick, eventually you will tick to 100 rage.
However this takes a long time. Bloodrage is 10 seconds for 24 rage. You must remain in combat for another ~3 minutes to be completely full on rage.
Requirement:
Must have Anger management
Re-creation:
Right click on a mob (as if to attack it) from well outside aggro radius
Hit Bloodrage (this puts you in combat for the duration of bloodrage)
You will never leave combat, and since anger management generates 1 rage per tick, eventually you will tick to 100 rage.
However this takes a long time. Bloodrage is 10 seconds for 24 rage. You must remain in combat for another ~3 minutes to be completely full on rage.
Your explanation is much better than mine
We generally take 3+ minutes to get ready for a boss encounter so the Warriors getting full rage is no big deal. I would consider this a bug/exploit as its obvious not an intended class skill.
Anger Management
Instant
Increases the time required for your rage to decay while out of combat by 30%.
Source: Talent
Why is this generating rage in the first place? it should slow it's decline ooc, not increase it?
Instant
Increases the time required for your rage to decay while out of combat by 30%.
Source: Talent
Why is this generating rage in the first place? it should slow it's decline ooc, not increase it?
QUOTE(Crusader @ Mar 3 2006, 07:36 AM)
Anger Management
Instant
Increases the time required for your rage to decay while out of combat by 30%.
Source: Talent
Why is this generating rage in the first place? it should slow it's decline ooc, not increase it?
Instant
Increases the time required for your rage to decay while out of combat by 30%.
Source: Talent
Why is this generating rage in the first place? it should slow it's decline ooc, not increase it?
This has been known for a long time. *In combat*, it increases your rage slowly.
QUOTE(Crusader @ Mar 3 2006, 07:36 AM)
Anger Management
Instant
Increases the time required for your rage to decay while out of combat by 30%.
Source: Talent
Why is this generating rage in the first place? it should slow it's decline ooc, not increase it?
Instant
Increases the time required for your rage to decay while out of combat by 30%.
Source: Talent
Why is this generating rage in the first place? it should slow it's decline ooc, not increase it?
In combat rage decay is 0%. So in combat with this talent it becomes some negative value of decay. Negative decay is rage generation. This is the true power of this talent. If this talent didn't do this many warriors would skip it. AFIAK it's been like this since beta.
A more technical explanation of why rage is generated at all is thus:
Warriors have a natural rage decay, 2 rage per tick, that is there ALL the time, even in combat.
When in combat, warriors do not lose rage, because being in the state of combat turns on a rage generation mechanism of 2 rage per tick, to offset the natural rage decay. Thus normally, the warrior will not generate or lose rage when in combat, because the decay and generation will offset.
When Anger Management comes into play, it reduces the natural rage decay by 30%. So now warriors lose only 1.4 rage every tick. Well, in combat, warriors still generate 2 rage per tick to offset the rage decay! So on average, warriors generate 0.6 rage per tick with Anger Management in combat.
The real issue here of course is the bugged when-oh-when-will-I-get-out-of-combat issue that was introduced this patch, but maybe this warrior bug will get them to fix it sooner.
Warriors have a natural rage decay, 2 rage per tick, that is there ALL the time, even in combat.
When in combat, warriors do not lose rage, because being in the state of combat turns on a rage generation mechanism of 2 rage per tick, to offset the natural rage decay. Thus normally, the warrior will not generate or lose rage when in combat, because the decay and generation will offset.
When Anger Management comes into play, it reduces the natural rage decay by 30%. So now warriors lose only 1.4 rage every tick. Well, in combat, warriors still generate 2 rage per tick to offset the rage decay! So on average, warriors generate 0.6 rage per tick with Anger Management in combat.
The real issue here of course is the bugged when-oh-when-will-I-get-out-of-combat issue that was introduced this patch, but maybe this warrior bug will get them to fix it sooner.
QUOTE
You are no longer kept in combat while on auto-attack at long range.
Apparently fixed in 1.10, based on this item in the patch notes.
I haven't tried it recently but the meathod is bloodrage then assisting yourself. When you assist a target in combat you enter combat, since bloodrage puts you in combat assising yourself counts as assisting a player in combat. I'm fairly sure this hasn't been fixed.
Edit: tested last night on some MC pulls. It's not fixed.
Edit: tested last night on some MC pulls. It's not fixed.
It is definitely fixed. Now if you right click on a mob and hit bloodrage you will drop out of combat after bloodrage runs out. You still passively gain rage while in combat from anger management, but that was never a bug.
QUOTE(Boutros @ Apr 4 2006, 11:03 AM)
You still passively gain rage while in combat from anger management, but that was never a bug.
Well there is a bug somewhere with Anger Management.
Either the rage gain is a bug
or
the exclusion of mention of the rage gain on the talent tooltip is a bug.
They will fix one at some point, I'm hoping for the latter, since the former will effectively render Anger Management about as useful as Improved Thunderclap.
QUOTE(Boutros @ Apr 4 2006, 02:03 PM)
It is definitely fixed. Now if you right click on a mob and hit bloodrage you will drop out of combat after bloodrage runs out. You still passively gain rage while in combat from anger management, but that was never a bug.
Aye, the 100 rage before combat is fixed. As sson as bloodrage times out you're done if not in combat.
It's the intended feature,I think
QUOTE(sundaystory @ Jul 3 2006, 04:54 AM)
It's the intended feature,I think
Didn't bother to read the thread did you?
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