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Tal
Since folks were asking (And I know Legedi especially wants to see) I transferred Shal over to the PTR to take some screenies of how things have changed. The quality of the images sucks - I'll try to take better ones tonight after Karazhan.

Basically all of the Kara tank loot is taking on the look of the Dungeon 3 set with black and red trim:

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Sayonara clown suit! w00t.gif
NiteFox
Incidentally, what did it look like before?
Frag
/sigh

~Frag huh.gif

P.S. T4 Warrior now, on a human.
Monkey
QUOTE(Frag @ Jun 10 2007, 11:31 AM) *


I'm confused, are we talking about random tankish loot drops in Kara or all of T4?

Tal
QUOTE(Monkey @ Jun 10 2007, 12:51 PM) *

I'm confused, are we talking about random tankish loot drops in Kara or all of T4?


The tank set from Kara - T-4 remains unchanged.
NuurAbSaal
Thank god!


take care
Tarabulus
Legedi
It was the ugliest set ever. And that's including the Paladin sets. I was hoping for a T3 remodel, but it's a big improvement.
Alliera
Much better! Congrats, warriors.
TheDragoon
Much nicer! Now they need to go fix the healing leather set (which is really, really ugly as far as healing gear goes) and then I will be happy. smile.gif
Artega
QUOTE(Legedi @ Jun 10 2007, 03:30 PM) *

It was the ugliest set ever. And that's including the Paladin sets. I was hoping for a T3 remodel, but it's a big improvement.


Frankly, I think Dreadnaught looks like crap. But I seem to be mostly alone in that regard.

I do have to admit I really like the red Wrath they used for Mantle of Abrahmis.
Monkey
QUOTE(Legedi @ Jun 10 2007, 04:30 PM) *

It was the ugliest set ever. And that's including the Paladin sets. I was hoping for a T3 remodel, but it's a big improvement.


Speaking of T3--at least the shoulders seem to have been selectively recycled into D3. Almost like they just filed down the rough bits and recolored it:

Faith: http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&4.525#2124
Hallowed: http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&4.662#20893

Dreamwalker: http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&4.521#7741
Moonglade: http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&4.637#21869

Cryptstalker: http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&4.530#674
Beast Lord: http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&4.650#20001

See? The trend continues, with the sets becoming more different until:


Dreadnaught: http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&4.523#587
Bold: http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&4.653#19615

Wait a second (you might say) haven't I seen those shoulders somewhere else? Yes, you have--As the new off-set tank art from Karazhan, Dreamwalker, Moonglade, Doomplate (http://www.wowhead.com/?itemset=661), and Wastewalker (http://www.wowhead.com/?screenshot=view&4.659#16365).

Man, Dreamwalker gets around as much as Arcanist!








Tal
QUOTE(Artega @ Jun 10 2007, 10:28 PM) *

Frankly, I think Dreadnaught looks like crap. But I seem to be mostly alone in that regard.

I do have to admit I really like the red Wrath they used for Mantle of Abrahmis.



Awww man Dreadnaught looked hawt. I loved the black and blue theme for warriors. smile.gif
Frag
My apologies, I saw "Kara tank loot" and thought "T4" which is obviously isn't.

Blargh,
~Frag blink.gif
Lissa
Just say no to helms... whistling.gif
Alliera
Hey, some helms looked sweet. Like my tanking hat (how I wish I could show it in bear form!).
nobbie
QUOTE(Tal @ Jun 10 2007, 02:12 PM) *

Since folks were asking (And I know Legedi especially wants to see) I transferred Shal over to the PTR to take some screenies of how things have changed. The quality of the images sucks - I'll try to take better ones tonight after Karazhan.

I'm using the WoW Model Viewer for previews, and the test MPQ's are loaded into the program before the live MPQ's.

When I equip a warrior with the Karazhan tank loot, it still has the old "clown-o-look", though, i.e. Eternium Greathelm. How comes that the graphics on the PTR are different (as seen in your pictures)?
Tal
QUOTE(nobbie @ Jun 12 2007, 08:21 AM) *

I'm using the WoW Model Viewer for previews, and the test MPQ's are loaded into the program before the live MPQ's.

When I equip a warrior with the Karazhan tank loot, it still has the old "clown-o-look", though, i.e. Eternium Greathelm. How comes that the graphics on the PTR are different (as seen in your pictures)?


I don't know - I've never messed with the WoW Model Viewer.
bonemage
QUOTE(nobbie @ Jun 12 2007, 06:21 AM) *

I'm using the WoW Model Viewer for previews, and the test MPQ's are loaded into the program before the live MPQ's.

When I equip a warrior with the Karazhan tank loot, it still has the old "clown-o-look", though, i.e. Eternium Greathelm. How comes that the graphics on the PTR are different (as seen in your pictures)?

The old models are still in the .mpq, and wowmodelviewer has not yet been mapped to the new values (outdated items.csv). To put it another way, both models' data are still in the new .mpqs from the PTR, but the model viewer is looking at the old location.
nobbie
Ok, thanks. Is there a way to update items.csv myself, and if, how do you do it?
bonemage
QUOTE(nobbie @ Jun 12 2007, 07:51 AM) *

Ok, thanks. Is there a way to update items.csv myself, and if, how do you do it?

Yes, there is, but I have no idea how to locate the correct data to update it to. You would have to be able to peruse and understand the formatting of the .mpq file. The items.csv file is just a standard text file, comma separated (what .csv usually means). You can open it in notepad, or a spreadsheet program, and altering it would be trivial. Here is a sample line:

897,17011,4,2,9,0,2,Madwolf Bracers

The file has no headers, so I don't know what the specific numbers indicate, but I can speculate a little, the later 5 numbers appear to be flags, categories, classes, etc. with values in those fields possibly meaning 2 handed sword, plate, wrist, main hand, etc. type of data, with the earlier 2 numbers being a unique data ID that is part of the data just for this file, and the 2nd number is the actual "address", as it were, for the item in the .mpq. Remember, take this with a grain of salt here, as I pulled this out of my wazoo so the ... salt ... makes ... things like ... that ... taste ... better ... ? (Wow, I've really derailed here...)

To update this file manually,you'd need likely just need to change the 2nd number (possibly some of the others, depending on what they are) to the new value(s) to have the wowmodelviewer app show the proper model/skin when you selected the plate items. This is really just the theory here, as the actual work to do this is well beyond me, I'm only vaguely familiar with the concept.

Realistically, your best bet for an early updated items.csv (before the wowmodelviwer folks update theirs) file is to hang out in their forums (seems you have to register just to read) waiting for a bright fan to post their findings.

Warning: Just be wary about what you might download there, though a .csv file should be pretty safe, though some systems won't display known file extensions (so a file might be named items.csv.exe and show to you as items.csv) and that is a common practice among those looking to infiltrate someone else's system. This is a forum that will be used by WoW enthusiasts, so it will be targeted by people looking to steal your account info.
nobbie
Ok, thanks for the info. I think I'll wait for a .CSV update there wink.gif

Tal, can you please post a detailed, full front view image of the new gear (a quality image with good front lighting)? I'd like to use it - with your permission - on the German WoW site. Thanks!

EDIT:

No image needed anymore - left side: the Clown patch 2.1.1, right side: Warrior gear patch 2.1.2 biggrin.gif

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