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[kandrathe]

When was it ever alive? If "the other side are a bunch of no-good, mud-flinging, society-wrecking arseholes" is the death of discourse, then that's been around since the inventions of sides and others.

Yes. I think at the Lounge we are a bit above labeling someone as a cretin or worse, for supporting one side or the other. I was highlighting the particular brand of bigotry that the poster was spewing. I actually think both Presidential candidates are too flawed to be seriously considered for President, which highlights a problem in the process. Obama is just not seasoned enough, and has really done nothing spectacular in his short career other than get himself promoted to the next highest office. McCain is the caricature of an angry grandfather, and frankly has too much experience. It's the election of the Wannabe vs the HasBeen. So, my biggest problem with Obama is that he is the candidate of "hope" (as in "I hope he can do what he says he can do") and talk is cheap, and political talk is really, really, really, cheap. In fact, political promises are cheaper than fertilizer, just as plentiful and twice as fragrant. Major philosophical differences on liberty aside, Joe Biden is the only one of the four I would consider voting for as President, but unfortunately he was passed over for the new guy. I might just end up voting for Ron Paul since he seems to be the one most in sync with my views and has been unfairly shut out of the process.