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[ShadowHM]

If there is no organized effort, and you are not ready to lead one, then why should you or anyone decide to make the altruistic stand to suffer in the name of moral gravitas?

To diminish my karmic burden? :rolleyes: To assuage my concience? If doing without certain items seems like undue suffering to you, then use them. I will make my choices and you can make yours. Please don't suggest that just because you think it is futile gives you carte blanche to avoid making those choices.

Give me the name of any common product, and we can discern its level of immorality. You, Shadow, and everyone here all have bought hundreds of products in 2008 that are burdened with immorality.

Of course we have. We all have to make our own choices as to where and how we can minimize our impact. You still seem to be advocating not even bothering to try. :ph34r:

I am bewildered by your continued disparagement of what you call 'institutionalized altruism'. This topic, as Jester suggested, does deserve its own thread. At the end, we are likely to still disagree, but I may understand your viewpoint better.