(07-23-2010, 05:44 PM)--Pete Wrote: This site is more than a collection of people who play the same game. It is a collection of above average people who share gaming as a hobby, who take gaming seriously and are willing to take the time and trouble to analyzing and understanding the games they play. But above and beyond that, it is a site of people who are willing to discuss many topics, rationally and for the most part politely.It's been a little while since I played on Terenas, but it was still the case over there when I was that we did do things differently, just to see. No one refused to take my then rather odd holy DPS priest on a run. In fact, I was even allowed to actually DPS on her rather than heal. =) We undermanned the dungeons (before BOAs came out, before we were overleveled/overgeared for that particular dungeon), used not exactly typical tanks (shaman tanks even after TBC came out, warlock pet tanks, hunter pet tanks, rogue tanks, hell I even priest tanked some runs), didn't use exploits, and basically just tried to see how much was possible to do in the game, even doing the min/max stuff with characters to see if the theoretical best and practical best matched up. All of those nitpicky things that makes a Lurker a lurker. There just weren't many write ups of it on the forums. This is why I said the guilds and the forums were separated rather than divorced. The ideals are still there, still being put into play, but in game rather than the forums.
Perhaps it is the nature of the beast, perhaps it is a change in the people, but there was a time when you could spot a Lurker because s/he was doing strange things, trying strange tactics, and playing with strange builds, all out of curiosity. Now, there is no noticeable difference between a Lurker and any other player. That's not bad, that's not good, it's just changed. Some regret the change. I do. But the way others play has no bearing on how I play. And that seems to have been lost in the fury.
Edit: And about the fighting over who the true lurkers would be, well, there was a bit of that when D2 was king too. If you weren't here for the D1 days and actively posting, you weren't a true lurker. And I hate to admit it, but I do kind of feel that way still. The LL has changed, its members have changed, hopefully some growth has occurred, but I still don't consider myself a true Lurker really. I agree with the gaming ideals that the site has always stood for, but I'm still not an actual Lurker because I don't sit down to write up my talent trees on my oddball chars, I didn't chronicle (in great detail) my skilless zon that I made so long ago. I'll talk about them to folks, try to give little tips about what I knew, but full, detailed reports always have bugged me. You have to put in every single little detail and I don't put that level of detail in my notes. That's what always annoyed me about the science labs. You have to keep track of -everything- to make sure it doesn't affect the results, to make sure someone can completely recreate your experiment. It's asking a level of perfection from me that I just can't do. Still got As on the labs, but it definitely showed me that, while I enjoy research and experimentation, I can't do the explanations and write-ups properly for other folks to see. It's the same about my games. I really dig into the ones I like, mention stuff in that I notice that doesn't follow the norm, but doing a full on write-up just doesn't happen.
Intolerant monkey.