09-12-2012, 08:57 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-12-2012, 09:03 PM by FireIceTalon.)
(09-12-2012, 08:47 PM)Lissa Wrote:(09-12-2012, 08:25 PM)FireIceTalon Wrote: Sorry, the Inquisition STILL does count, and always will... especially in the minds of the descendants of Native Americans, who are still probably the most marginalized group still in American society, or maybe tied with African Americans. There are just as many extremists in Christianity as there are nut job Muslims, or any other religion really. If you think otherwise, you are short-sighted, plain and simple. I don't agree with shoju on much but indeed, the connect here isn't the religion itself, but the dominating culture of each nation. I just wish people would get over these silly divisions and realize who their true oppressors are. Working class Muslims need to realize they have the same class interests as Christian working class people do, and vice versa.
Anyways, glad I'm an atheist. Because personally, I think ALL organized religion sucks and is just an excuse for people to not have to think at all. Science and education for the win. I let reason and rationality rule my world, not superstition and mythology based on the will of some invisible authoritarian sky wizard that doesn't exist.
Just a nit, but German Americans are the most marginalized culture in the US. No other culture is more ashamed of what has happened in their past then those of German descent living in America.
No....Germans may be ashamed and sorrowful of their past more than other people (and this in itself would be something that is hard to quantify), but by no means does this make them the most marginalized demographic in America, not even close. Two-thirds of our prison system consists of minorities (blacks, followed by Latinos - or it may be reversed now, I cannot recall), and Native Americans are the economically poorest demographic overall. Not to mention it is mostly blacks, Latinos, and middle-eastern people who are racially profiled, and victims of hate crimes. Middle easterns and Latinos probably suffer the most from xenophobia.
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"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)