10-18-2012, 04:04 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-18-2012, 04:18 PM by FireIceTalon.)
In general, I dislike most ideologies, because most of them are authoritarian in nature and are usually based on one person or one group of person's view of how society should be organized and ran. They think they are doing the right thing, and have everyone's best interest in mind, but what they are really doing is subjugating others. Yes, there are some general rules that are needed, but most of these should be obvious, and we do not need an ideological doctrine, at least not a religious one that is full of subjective moralism, to govern ourselves. You don't think sex before marriage is right? Then don't do it. You don't believe abortion is right? No one is saying you have to do it, or morally be in favor of it even. But you have no right to project this view onto everyone else.
Now, before someone calls me out on it, communism is indeed an ideology. However, it is not ideology filled with moralism and personal ethics - it is merely a classless and stateless society, that is the ideological embodiment of the class interests of the proletarian, aka 95%+ of society right now. Because there are no longer any classes, all people would have complete self-determination, and the rules of society would be entirely up to that society, and they would be established in a most democratic way. Pure democracy isn't perfect, but it is without any doubt the system with the most traction for allowing people to live their lives freely with the most dignity, and allow them to reach their potential both individually and collectively. Likely, we would see quite a few of the obvious fundamental and essential rules we see today, but rules based on moralism or personal ideology would be just that - your own rules, that you are not allowed to subject anyone else to. And the context of rules and their application is day and night in class societies vs. a classless/stateless society. Are communism and religion compatible? Why not. Religion in a communist society would lose all its power, because there is no longer a ruling class that subjugates others, and religious doctrine would no longer be a social or political power that is legitimized by a rule-of-law system, that was made by the few in favor of the few. But people would still have the right to their religion. Religion, if one chose to believe in one, would be a personal way of living your own life, and your life ONLY. You have absolutely no right to force anyone else to your personal morals, ever.
Now, before someone calls me out on it, communism is indeed an ideology. However, it is not ideology filled with moralism and personal ethics - it is merely a classless and stateless society, that is the ideological embodiment of the class interests of the proletarian, aka 95%+ of society right now. Because there are no longer any classes, all people would have complete self-determination, and the rules of society would be entirely up to that society, and they would be established in a most democratic way. Pure democracy isn't perfect, but it is without any doubt the system with the most traction for allowing people to live their lives freely with the most dignity, and allow them to reach their potential both individually and collectively. Likely, we would see quite a few of the obvious fundamental and essential rules we see today, but rules based on moralism or personal ideology would be just that - your own rules, that you are not allowed to subject anyone else to. And the context of rules and their application is day and night in class societies vs. a classless/stateless society. Are communism and religion compatible? Why not. Religion in a communist society would lose all its power, because there is no longer a ruling class that subjugates others, and religious doctrine would no longer be a social or political power that is legitimized by a rule-of-law system, that was made by the few in favor of the few. But people would still have the right to their religion. Religion, if one chose to believe in one, would be a personal way of living your own life, and your life ONLY. You have absolutely no right to force anyone else to your personal morals, ever.
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"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)
"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)