Religion trumping freedom
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Well, I knew this was going to be a hot button topic, when my a pastor friend of mine said "ARE YOU KIDDING ME?" We met over lunch today, and talked about this the entire time.

While I understand that the Lounge is a more "secular" place, , The following is why this man's logic, even in a "Christian" position, doesn't hold water. (An abridged version of the points that he brought up over lunch.)

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To believe that Rape, or that Pregnancy from Rape, is "God's Will" is to deny the existence of the Devil, and (the devil's) influence in the world in which we live. To believe that an atrocity of this magnitude could happen to someone is "God's Will" implies that God is in fact not the loving, merciful God that the bible (specifically the New Testament) teaches. To believe that "God's Will" can be found in this, is misguided, and does a disservice to the followers of God.

Part of the problem with this, is that people believe that God tests them. That he actively "Job's" people (Job, Old Testament Story). As we have seen throughout history, It is preposterous to think that all of the horrors in our world have been committed solely because God is "testing" someone. Sometimes, Evil exists. It isn't pretty, it isn't right. It isn't fair. But, if you are a believer, then you believe that Sin was introduced to the world through the Original Sin, and that Sin, is an extension of temptation from the Devil.

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Personally, I'm appalled at the sound bites that have been leaked by the Republican Party this year. Couple this, with a "Tea Party" president saying that they think the country would be better off if women didn't vote because of how "Vindictive" they are, LINK

The Republican Party was NOT founded to be the Religious Arm of American Politics. It was founded on a platform of less government in your life. Like I've said before, there are plenty of things that they (originally) stand for, that I myself would agree with. (Gun Laws being the biggest and easiest to cite)

THe problem is, somewhere along the way, the Religious portion of America's population latched on to something. If I had to hazard a guess, I would think that it was Roe V Wade, but I was born in 1979, and I just don't care enough about the history of American Politics to dig and find what it is.

But, throughout my lifetime, I have seen the Religious Section of America's Population grow more and more intertwined with the Republican Party. Even though there are some obvious fallacies in that "Marriage". I don't understand it, and it is a sad state of affairs.
nobody ever slaughtered an entire school with a smart phone and a twitter account – they have, however, toppled governments. - Jim Wright
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Religion trumping freedom - by Taem - 10-24-2012, 04:18 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by DeeBye - 10-24-2012, 05:49 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by NuurAbSaal - 10-24-2012, 06:20 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by shoju - 10-24-2012, 07:46 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by kandrathe - 10-24-2012, 08:16 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by shoju - 10-25-2012, 01:35 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by FoxBat - 10-24-2012, 10:03 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by FireIceTalon - 10-24-2012, 08:17 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by FireIceTalon - 10-24-2012, 10:21 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by eppie - 10-25-2012, 08:55 AM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by NuurAbSaal - 10-25-2012, 09:18 AM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by eppie - 10-25-2012, 12:05 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by NuurAbSaal - 10-25-2012, 12:38 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by eppie - 10-25-2012, 01:24 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by NuurAbSaal - 10-25-2012, 02:10 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by Taem - 10-25-2012, 04:15 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by kandrathe - 10-25-2012, 09:11 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by Taem - 10-25-2012, 09:53 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by eppie - 10-25-2012, 06:00 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by FireIceTalon - 10-25-2012, 03:28 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by LavCat - 10-26-2012, 01:23 AM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by FireIceTalon - 10-26-2012, 01:41 AM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by eppie - 10-26-2012, 05:44 AM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by LavCat - 10-26-2012, 06:31 AM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by kandrathe - 10-26-2012, 03:32 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by FireIceTalon - 10-29-2012, 02:15 AM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by eppie - 10-29-2012, 07:39 AM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by FireIceTalon - 10-29-2012, 08:16 AM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by Taem - 10-29-2012, 09:58 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by LochnarITB - 10-29-2012, 11:05 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by eppie - 10-31-2012, 12:57 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by kandrathe - 10-31-2012, 04:19 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by FireIceTalon - 10-31-2012, 07:58 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by DeeBye - 11-01-2012, 02:50 AM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by eppie - 11-01-2012, 05:05 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by kandrathe - 10-29-2012, 06:12 PM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by FireIceTalon - 10-31-2012, 02:50 AM
RE: Religion trumping freedom - by DeeBye - 10-31-2012, 04:48 AM

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