Criminal Deeds
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(01-02-2013, 12:22 PM)eppie Wrote: So what you (and the NRA) actually say every adult who is able to use a gun better than the next man has the right to defend himself?

Well also the guy who is not really very good at aiming has the right to defend himself but we all know this is a bit of a wax nose because he will get shot anyway.

Of course I agree with the fact that also a 230 lb raving sociopath with a knife can kill lots of people but we were talking about the right to bear arms and defend yourself.
Well, a small person with a gun has a better chance to defend against the 230 lb raving sociopath without a gun. If the sociopath were also armed, then they perhaps have a more equal chance against each other. That is all the right of defense can hope for is to reasonably level the ground a bit.

Quote:The scary thing is that with a gun you kill more people, quicker in a less personal way and you (if your mad at the world) have a very easy way of not having to face the wrath of other people because you can very easily kill yourself with it. For knifing yourself to death you need extra courage that most of us don't have.
Those bent upon harm, to themselves or others, are inventive enough to find a way. There was a guy here in Minneapolis who mixed Chlorine Bleach with HCL to flood a home with poisonous gas in the middle of the night in an attempt to kill all the occupants.

Quote:In Belgium a few years ago Kim de Gelder went into a daycare center and stabbed two toddlers to death (an a teacher). He was mad at the world and wanted to make as many people suffer the worst way possible (by having their kids killed). He wanted actually to do this in a few more daycares. Now there were 3 victims....if this guy had a gun, probably 10s more. The gun is not the cause, but it helps to make things worse.
So, again, we need a better way in our society to identify the sociopaths like "Kim de Gelder's" to be able to intervene before they kill. Putting all of society into "the rubber room of safety", or in other words, removing/regulating all possible harmful things from our lives, will only serve to remove freedom from those who are already law abiding and peaceful. Criminals / sociopaths will ignore the laws - e.g. ammonium nitrate fertilizer and diesel fuel... Any Tom, Dick, or Timothy McVeigh can tell you how to make Anfo -- it's even easier if you are willing to suicide along with your mass homicide. However, when not made into explosives, fertilizer is also useful, and so is diesel fuel.
”There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." - Hamlet (1.5.167-8), Hamlet to Horatio.

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Criminal Deeds - by Nomad25055 - 12-15-2012, 01:34 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Jester - 12-15-2012, 02:59 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Occhidiangela - 12-16-2012, 01:06 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by eppie - 12-16-2012, 03:29 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Jester - 12-16-2012, 09:10 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Occhidiangela - 12-17-2012, 03:53 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by eppie - 12-17-2012, 09:08 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Jester - 12-17-2012, 10:12 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by kandrathe - 12-20-2012, 09:21 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by eppie - 12-15-2012, 03:14 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Kevin - 12-15-2012, 03:55 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Jenjan - 12-16-2012, 05:29 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by FireIceTalon - 12-16-2012, 05:55 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Kevin - 12-16-2012, 06:22 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by GhastMaster - 12-15-2012, 06:28 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Kevin - 12-15-2012, 07:00 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by FireIceTalon - 12-15-2012, 08:49 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by DeeBye - 12-15-2012, 09:06 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by FireIceTalon - 12-16-2012, 12:00 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by DeeBye - 12-16-2012, 03:57 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Sir_Die_alot - 12-16-2012, 09:21 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by DeeBye - 12-17-2012, 03:54 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Occhidiangela - 12-17-2012, 03:59 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by DeeBye - 12-17-2012, 04:42 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Sir_Die_alot - 12-17-2012, 06:44 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Kevin - 12-17-2012, 07:08 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Sir_Die_alot - 12-17-2012, 10:42 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by DeeBye - 12-20-2012, 04:43 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by ShadowHM - 12-17-2012, 12:31 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by eppie - 12-16-2012, 07:31 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Nomad25055 - 12-15-2012, 10:38 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Jester - 12-15-2012, 11:18 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Nomad25055 - 12-15-2012, 11:54 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Jester - 12-16-2012, 12:03 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Nomad25055 - 12-16-2012, 12:20 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Taem - 12-16-2012, 12:29 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Nomad25055 - 12-16-2012, 12:51 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by FireIceTalon - 12-16-2012, 03:11 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by eppie - 12-16-2012, 07:42 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Jester - 12-16-2012, 12:29 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Taem - 12-15-2012, 11:50 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by eppie - 12-16-2012, 07:19 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Taem - 12-16-2012, 05:45 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by eppie - 12-16-2012, 07:36 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Taem - 12-16-2012, 09:03 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by eppie - 12-17-2012, 08:48 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Alram - 12-15-2012, 11:31 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Jester - 12-15-2012, 11:54 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by FireIceTalon - 12-16-2012, 06:38 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by FireIceTalon - 12-16-2012, 09:19 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by LennyLen - 12-16-2012, 11:40 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by FireIceTalon - 12-17-2012, 01:24 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by DeeBye - 12-17-2012, 03:36 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Nomad25055 - 12-17-2012, 02:15 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by LennyLen - 12-17-2012, 05:54 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by eppie - 12-17-2012, 12:13 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Nomad25055 - 12-17-2012, 02:44 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by shoju - 12-17-2012, 08:13 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Archon_Wing - 12-20-2012, 05:26 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by eppie - 12-26-2012, 08:36 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by kandrathe - 12-26-2012, 09:17 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by eppie - 12-27-2012, 07:25 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by kandrathe - 12-27-2012, 07:48 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by eppie - 12-27-2012, 09:33 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by kandrathe - 12-27-2012, 10:52 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Occhidiangela - 12-29-2012, 01:41 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by eppie - 12-29-2012, 09:00 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Occhidiangela - 01-01-2013, 02:37 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by FireIceTalon - 01-01-2013, 04:40 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by eppie - 01-01-2013, 08:15 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by kandrathe - 01-01-2013, 12:22 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by eppie - 01-01-2013, 07:19 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by kandrathe - 01-01-2013, 11:31 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by eppie - 01-02-2013, 12:22 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by kandrathe - 01-02-2013, 10:14 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Jester - 01-02-2013, 10:23 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by kandrathe - 01-03-2013, 12:21 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Jester - 01-03-2013, 05:14 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by kandrathe - 01-03-2013, 08:03 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by FireIceTalon - 01-01-2013, 08:23 PM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by Sir_Die_alot - 01-02-2013, 04:42 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by FireIceTalon - 01-02-2013, 05:17 AM
RE: Criminal Deeds - by eppie - 01-03-2013, 07:29 PM

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