Maryland abolishes death penalty.
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(05-16-2013, 01:27 PM)shoju Wrote: And FiT. No, I'm not wrong.

Castro was the First Secretary of the Communist Party in Cuba from 1961 to 2011. That's not the west labeling him. That's his political party. His choice. His label.

The USSR was ruled by a one party system, The Communist Party, of which Stalin was the General Secretary. He was even heralded as the "genius of the new world, the wisest man of the epoch, the great leader of communism."

Again. Not the west. That quote was from the Russian Political Newspaper, the Pravda.

Hate to be the one to give you the bad news, but it's not the west, It was themselves.

And I was right about China's government claiming to be Communist. they are the Communist Party of China
Also about North Korea. Kim Yong-Bom and Pak Hon-Yong founded the Communist Party of Korea in 1925, and then in 1945 the North Korea Bureau of the Communist Party of Korea came to be.

Again. Not Western Labeling. That's what they chose to call themselves.

Communism and Communist Party are two very, very different things.

You are still being intellectually dishonest here, albeit in a very underhanded way by using circular logic (the dominant party of country x calls itself a communist party, therefore country x must be a communist country, country x is communist because it has a party that calls itself communist). This is a logical fallacy, so yes, you still have yet to prove yourself correct.

If you deny that western culture and propaganda does not go at VERY great lengths to demonize communism by defining it as something that its not, than sorry, but you are living in a bubble. As I said before, Obama is pushing policies war, handing out tax cuts to gazillionaires, while the working class gets more austerity and cuts to social programs.....and half the populace is calling him a communist! Its a total mind fuckery. And that is just one example, there are a million others. You want free healthcare or a more progressive tax system? better watch out that will get you labeled a socialist! Americans are fucking brain dead due to our banking system of education and media, which are designed to brainwash the masses with pro-capitalist ideology. You and most of the American populace have no clue or concept of what socialism is, what its aims are, or really, anything about it at all.

I dont care if the Russian newspaper was calling Stalin a god or not.....the reason they did is because Stalin himself had control of the media and thus control of what was said, much in the same way our media has control of public opinion - except it is the philosophy of a handful of corporations what want to make a profit instead of a single dictator. This doesn't mean that he was representative of the true opinion of the Soviet people - it may have been or it may not have been. And it certainly wasn't the opinion of most communists in general, outside the USSR - you paint with a very broad broad brush when you say people like Stalin are viewed as "the great leader of communism", as if most communists worship Stalin......the majority of communists dont believe in 'Great man" theories of history (a bourgeois concept), because they are unscientific and do not provide a proper material analysis of history. Lastly, most of us actually are quite anti-Stalinist. And we have been since the days of Marx and Engels, before Stalin was even a speck of dust. But of course, the US media has done a wonderful job of conflating Stalin and other so-called 'great men of history' with all communists. And people like you buy it hook, line, and sinker. Im not asking you to become a communist, but your slandering and intellectual dishonesty of it really isn't appreciated. Then again, I guess it isn't slandering if you have no clue what you are talking about.

I really don't have the patience to debate against this kind of ignorance right now though, so I will stop here for now. Good day.
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RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by shoju - 05-14-2013, 12:56 AM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by shoju - 05-14-2013, 01:18 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by eppie - 05-15-2013, 07:33 AM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by shoju - 05-15-2013, 03:23 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by eppie - 05-16-2013, 12:23 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by shoju - 05-15-2013, 06:57 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by shoju - 05-16-2013, 03:22 AM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by Taem - 05-16-2013, 06:15 AM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by shoju - 05-16-2013, 01:17 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by eppie - 05-16-2013, 01:31 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by shoju - 05-16-2013, 01:27 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by FireIceTalon - 05-16-2013, 04:10 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by shoju - 05-16-2013, 02:49 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by shoju - 05-16-2013, 03:36 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by shoju - 05-16-2013, 05:56 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by shoju - 05-16-2013, 06:29 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by eppie - 05-22-2013, 07:08 AM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by shoju - 05-22-2013, 01:23 PM
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RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by shoju - 05-22-2013, 05:37 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by eppie - 05-23-2013, 06:56 AM
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RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by shoju - 05-23-2013, 07:28 PM
RE: Maryland abolishes death penalty. - by shoju - 05-23-2013, 08:02 PM
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