Wow Kerry took the Florida primary!

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So, continue to regurgitate the administration's propaganda. Be one of the last to see the truth.



Bah. I'm no apologist for this administration. I'm just unwilling to focus only on the negative. This administration has its short comings, and I'm willing to discuss them and I have. Our President may not be the leader that you, or I, or many may want -- we shall see in November -- but, the government is made up of much more than him. What I most see from you is insults, criticism, and rancor -- rather than anything substantitive which we might discuss. Anyone who disagrees with you is an idiot, and all I can say is it must be pretty lonely at the top of your mountain.

Well I'm also up there if you state it like this. One very important point as Pete is trying to make, and he is right if you ask me, is the propaganda. Many governements use propaganda to sell their ideas to the people. In some countries this is a bit less, but in e.g. the US it is a serious problem. I mean all those election"movies" they show on television, the ones which eat up most of the campaign budget, don't have to do a lot with democracy.
Anyway my point is, it is good that also in the US a lot of people oppose to this kind of propaganda and don't "continue to regurgitate " it. If you check history this propaganda (ussually in war time) they are filled with lies. During the vietnam war a group of people allready opposed to this, now everybody sees it was wrong.

As last example I want to mention the "trick" of Bush' friend Aznar. Untill last sunday (election day) journalists got the order to tell (and stress) that the atacks on the trains in Madrid were done by the ETA, while at that time (the same day as the attacks) there were allready very strong leads that it was Al qaida who did it. This was just done because if it was ETA, Aznars PP, would remain the biggest party and win the elections while if it was Al qaida he would lose (what also happened now).
You see that governements very often use lies to reach there goal, even when it is about such a terribel thing as the 3/11 attacks.