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03-25-2003, 04:27 PM
Hi,

Easy to say for someone living in a wealthy democracy, don't you think.

First, the history of democracy is the history of people realizing that they should have more of an input to the government and then fighting for it. Few democracies "just happened". And, second, the reason I live in this democracy is because my parents and I *moved* to it. As do many people, legally or illegally, every year.

So, yes, if the population of a nation is ready to take up its rights as citizens, then it will happen with or without interference. And if the population isn't ready, then any "democracy" forced on that nation will not survive long. Democracy is not nearly as much a form of government as it is a mindset of the people.

As for Shrub doing anything, I doubt if he and his machine have the ability to even understand the issues, much less come up with workable solutions. Even this war with Iraq is being fought for many of the wrong reasons. What's being done needs to be done, but not because of terrorism and not because of the conditions of the Iraqi people (or the evilness of Saddam).

--Pete

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Precedent - by Occhidiangela - 03-20-2003, 06:20 PM
Precedent - by The Luminaire - 03-20-2003, 06:55 PM
Precedent - by Occhidiangela - 03-20-2003, 09:37 PM
Precedent - by --Pete - 03-20-2003, 09:59 PM
Precedent - by NuurAbSaal - 03-20-2003, 10:22 PM
Precedent - by --Pete - 03-20-2003, 10:45 PM
Precedent - by Occhidiangela - 03-20-2003, 10:56 PM
Precedent - by --Pete - 03-20-2003, 11:35 PM
Precedent - by NuurAbSaal - 03-20-2003, 11:38 PM
Precedent - by --Pete - 03-21-2003, 12:05 AM
Precedent - by Occhidiangela - 03-21-2003, 12:26 AM
Precedent - by --Pete - 03-21-2003, 12:52 AM
Precedent - by The Luminaire - 03-21-2003, 12:57 AM
Precedent - by --Pete - 03-21-2003, 01:06 AM
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Precedent - by goldfish - 03-21-2003, 03:59 AM
Precedent - by Occhidiangela - 03-21-2003, 04:17 AM
Precedent - by Naddybear - 03-21-2003, 05:12 AM
Precedent - by NuurAbSaal - 03-22-2003, 12:41 AM
Precedent - by --Pete - 03-22-2003, 04:11 AM
Precedent - by Rhydderch Hael - 03-22-2003, 05:24 AM
Precedent - by Growler - 03-22-2003, 06:47 AM
Precedent - by NuurAbSaal - 03-22-2003, 11:58 AM
Precedent - by smithy - 03-22-2003, 12:14 PM
Precedent - by --Pete - 03-22-2003, 01:44 PM
Precedent - by NuurAbSaal - 03-23-2003, 11:06 PM
Precedent - by --Pete - 03-24-2003, 12:09 AM
Precedent - by concre+e - 03-24-2003, 02:40 AM
Precedent - by AtomicKitKat - 03-24-2003, 04:40 AM
Precedent - by Dani - 03-24-2003, 05:39 AM
Precedent - by --Pete - 03-24-2003, 06:27 AM
Precedent - by NuurAbSaal - 03-24-2003, 10:53 AM
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Precedent - by --Pete - 03-25-2003, 04:27 PM
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Precedent - by --Pete - 03-25-2003, 05:45 PM
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Precedent - by kandrathe - 03-25-2003, 06:04 PM
Precedent - by --Pete - 03-25-2003, 06:17 PM
Precedent - by kandrathe - 03-25-2003, 06:31 PM
Precedent - by kandrathe - 03-25-2003, 06:50 PM
Precedent - by NuurAbSaal - 03-25-2003, 07:45 PM
Precedent - by --Pete - 03-25-2003, 08:29 PM
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Precedent - by --Pete - 03-25-2003, 09:40 PM
Precedent - by Naddybear - 03-25-2003, 10:59 PM
Precedent - by --Pete - 03-25-2003, 11:16 PM
Precedent - by Occhidiangela - 03-26-2003, 04:38 AM
Precedent - by Griselda - 03-27-2003, 07:39 AM
Precedent - by WarBlade - 03-27-2003, 12:29 PM
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Precedent - by Occhidiangela - 03-27-2003, 03:28 PM
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