06-13-2005, 05:21 PM
Assur,Jun 12 2005, 09:16 PM Wrote:Hi
Basically all this is old stuff. The case has been around on all the news-sites about South Asia for years! Whilst all this has been about Islam, the original cause was about the brother allegedly having an affair with a high caste woman (it seems the brother had witnessed a man of the high caste having sex with a donkey and talking about it) and the village council (dominated by members of the high caste) condemned the woman to be raped as a punishment. Basically this high caste against low caste, a holdover from Hinduism, you can find similar stuff in Bihar or UP.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4085178.stm
It seems the woman has now been banned from leaving Pakistan.
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Yes, this is not something new. However, it is something that happens relatively regularly in that type of culture and I was just using it as an example. My original post asked about non-Muslim females. It did not ask about violence in Islam. That is beyond arguing about anyway, and I do not want to argue about this, since that is pointless. What is competely irrefutable, is that females in Islam are treated worse, much worse than second class citizens. The comparisons between the west of 50-60 years ago and Islam of today are complete garbage, as women in muslim societies don't just have less rights, they have no rights, and it does not look like things are going to change without intervention.
I've read arguments about why Islam is or is not ..... [insert whatever]. I still have not heard arguments as to why any sane Western female would support that culture, considering that if they were a part of it, they would be on par with a cow.... maybe. Not that I was expecting any.
-A
ps. I did not have a connection to the internet over the weekend, so unfortunately could not participate in this "discussion". I still don't from home, but I do from work. Sorry Occhy, but I think you did a nice job without me ;-)