07-01-2005, 01:08 PM
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Also, by going with only druids you lose potential CC utility in shackle and MC. The usefulness of shackle in Scholomance is not to be underestimated and heaven help any team that tries to 5-man that place with a druid in place of a priest. Sure, a druid can put a beast to sleep, tell me how often that is useful...
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- mjdoom
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Hmm, first half of UBRS, sleeping dragons? Maraudon beasts? Hmm, can you sleep the basilisk patrols in ZF? Dogs in BRD? My guild has been learning a LOT about CC lately, now that we finally have mages and druids (and a priest over 50 finally) old enouch to do some of the late-game instances. Of course, you can also sheep some beasts, too. Group in Maraudon was War/Hunter/Mage/two druids, one heavy feral/balance, other rest-spec. Lots of sleep and sheep used for CC. Until they got themselves in sync, we even had some sleeping sheep! :lol:
Yes, we ran into the rez issue w/druids. It's part of the game balance. And yes, running scholo or UD strat w/o a priest is different than running hu strat w/o one because of not having shackle. But it can be done. Just a little harder.
And, you don't *have* to have ideal groups. They're nice, but I've played with many that were not. Quality play wins out, usually. As far as loot because of rez issues, two things come to mind. Master loot on the boss gets around this, and you can roll on stuff while dead, just not released. I received my Valor from the Baron while dead with Master loot. I've rolled on and gotten other things while dead and not released. I don't release anymore on death in instances or other group situations with a rezzer of any kind until and unless it's clear we've wiped.
On another note, it's sad that it is becoming standard anymore to run Master Loot at the ends of instances, because of ninja looters who 'misunderstand' what they can and can't roll on. Also becoming standard in UBRS on the Beast, because too many rogues see a dagger and roll on it, when it clearly says 'skinner' DOH! (Other classes who use daggers sometimes will do it, but they're not as common as every 'phat lewt' rogue who rolls on anything they can justify)
(My pet peeve on the current state of WoW is not bugs, it's not balance, it's dishonest people)
Also, by going with only druids you lose potential CC utility in shackle and MC. The usefulness of shackle in Scholomance is not to be underestimated and heaven help any team that tries to 5-man that place with a druid in place of a priest. Sure, a druid can put a beast to sleep, tell me how often that is useful...
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- mjdoom
[right][snapback]82083[/snapback][/right]
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Hmm, first half of UBRS, sleeping dragons? Maraudon beasts? Hmm, can you sleep the basilisk patrols in ZF? Dogs in BRD? My guild has been learning a LOT about CC lately, now that we finally have mages and druids (and a priest over 50 finally) old enouch to do some of the late-game instances. Of course, you can also sheep some beasts, too. Group in Maraudon was War/Hunter/Mage/two druids, one heavy feral/balance, other rest-spec. Lots of sleep and sheep used for CC. Until they got themselves in sync, we even had some sleeping sheep! :lol:
Yes, we ran into the rez issue w/druids. It's part of the game balance. And yes, running scholo or UD strat w/o a priest is different than running hu strat w/o one because of not having shackle. But it can be done. Just a little harder.
And, you don't *have* to have ideal groups. They're nice, but I've played with many that were not. Quality play wins out, usually. As far as loot because of rez issues, two things come to mind. Master loot on the boss gets around this, and you can roll on stuff while dead, just not released. I received my Valor from the Baron while dead with Master loot. I've rolled on and gotten other things while dead and not released. I don't release anymore on death in instances or other group situations with a rezzer of any kind until and unless it's clear we've wiped.
On another note, it's sad that it is becoming standard anymore to run Master Loot at the ends of instances, because of ninja looters who 'misunderstand' what they can and can't roll on. Also becoming standard in UBRS on the Beast, because too many rogues see a dagger and roll on it, when it clearly says 'skinner' DOH! (Other classes who use daggers sometimes will do it, but they're not as common as every 'phat lewt' rogue who rolls on anything they can justify)
(My pet peeve on the current state of WoW is not bugs, it's not balance, it's dishonest people)
--Mav