Feb 14th New York Post
#22
Hi,

The Soviets won World war 2.

That's sheer nonsense. If you have a way to rerun WW II and take England and the USA out, including the material contribution of the USA, then I'll listen to that. Otherwise, there are too damned many factors for a simple statement like that to even have a meaning much less be right.

they -- in the end -- are the ones who gained ground, took countries and ran roughshod over the rest of the world.

Again, pure crap. British and American troops took North Africa, most of the Middle East, all of Western Europe. Not to mention that America pretty much fought a second war at the same time in the Pacific with effectively no allies. What the Soviets did was to not pull out of the ground they took, nothing to do with winning the war.

I guess people were just too exhausted to see the evil that had taken hold.

Some people, Patton was one, saw it clearly. A combination of FDR's death, leaving the USA in a weak international position, and the indifference of most of the European nations had more to do with not kicking the Soviets back to Moscow than any exhaustion.

Why is Hitler denounced as utterly evil, while Stalin a bare footnote in most people's minds?

Because the winners write the history. And because the conditions behind the Iron Curtain came out slowly and long after the fact. Just as the situation in Nazi held lands wasn't widely known until those lands were "liberated".

--Pete

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Feb 14th New York Post - by Grumpy - 02-14-2003, 08:17 PM
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