Wonder Woman
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(11-08-2017, 10:35 PM)Jester Wrote:
(11-08-2017, 07:49 PM)Lissa Wrote: Plus if you add in Philip K. Dick's thoughts on Deckard along with the screenwriter for Bladerunner and Harrison Ford, all three say that Deckard was human. It is only Ridley Scott that is forcing the situation stating that Deckard is a replicant.

Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep is really not compatible with Blade Runner. There are loads of things that are not true of one, but are true of the other. Fancher, meanwhile, has maintained (a la Borges) that ambiguity is the whole point, and to have it decided one way or the other ruins it. It's really only Harrison Ford who insists Deckard is human.

-Jester

Except from excerpts from Fancher and Dick on their viewing of Bladerunner, both concurred with Ford that Deckard was a human. I would need to find it, but there's an interview with Fancher where he states that unequivocally.

(11-09-2017, 01:05 AM)Chesspiece_face Wrote:
(11-08-2017, 07:49 PM)Lissa Wrote:
(11-04-2017, 01:48 AM)Chesspiece_face Wrote: there is no argument that the "canon" version of the original Blade Runner is now the Director's Cut. The voice over version just doesn't jive with the sequel at all.

Actually, according to Denis Villanueve, 2049 is based on the European Theatrical cut and not the Final Cut. Denis said that in 2049, Deckard being either a replicant or a human is never decided. The only thing for sure is that Rachel was (and this is a minor spoiler that is found out in the first 15 minutes) and that she and Deckard had a child.

I was speaking more of the feel of the movies and not any context that was added or removed with the voice over. After seeing Blade Runner 2049 I can see myself going back and watching both consistently, but I can't see myself wanting to watch the voice over release and then following it up with the sequel. Either the 1992 Director's Cut or 2007's Final Cut would be a much cleaner transition in tone and pacing.

The European theatrical release is the US theatrical release without the voice over. It leaves the situation ambiguous and is the version that Denis Villanueve saw growing up. As such, that is the version of the Bladerunner film that he is using as the basis for 2049. Thus the reason for Deckard being ambiguous on whether he's human or replicant in 2049.
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