07-14-2017, 05:47 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-14-2017, 08:04 PM by FireIceTalon.)
Robert Owen was a utopian socialist, not a scientific socialist in the same vain as Marx, Engels, Luxemburg, Leibknecht, etc. In fact, they were quite critical of utopian socialism because it lacked a proper material analysis of both socialism and the class based societies of the day. The Owenites concept of socialism was an abstract one, whereas the scientific socialism is grounded in reality.
Engels work "Socialism: Utopian and Scientific" distinguishes the fundamental differences between the two
He actually discusses Owen and the shortcomings of his idealistic version of socialism in one of the chapters of the above mentioned work. No one out of the utopian socialism camp has, to my knowledge, ever produced a work as rigorously researched, objective, or grounded in historical reality as Capital Vol.1.
But, all of this has been discussed many times before here. Not really interested in doing it again, at least not right now. Shouldn't have fed the troll.
Engels work "Socialism: Utopian and Scientific" distinguishes the fundamental differences between the two
He actually discusses Owen and the shortcomings of his idealistic version of socialism in one of the chapters of the above mentioned work. No one out of the utopian socialism camp has, to my knowledge, ever produced a work as rigorously researched, objective, or grounded in historical reality as Capital Vol.1.
But, all of this has been discussed many times before here. Not really interested in doing it again, at least not right now. Shouldn't have fed the troll.
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"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)
"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)