GOT season 7 thread

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I try not to speculate too much. My understanding is that the children of the forest created the first white walkers(s) to drive men out of their land, but evidently the army got away from them and turned on them. Then, it seems they were forced to ally with humans to contain the white walker army which seems to become dormant in the summer, but gains strength in winter.

Bran, I believe, not only sees the past, present, and future, but actually spiritually projects himself into the places he's viewing, and he hasn't exhibited this power yet, but his super worg ability would allow him to take over and possess a persons body during these projection events. So, I think Bran is quite possibly more powerful than anybody we've seen so far. Much more powerful than Dany, Jon, Cerce, or the Ice King. He cannot control the dead, but could possess a person to manipulate the events of any time, allowing any story line to play out many different ways.

If you remember the tower scene where Bran called out to his father, who reacted to hearing it... so, yes, the Ice King senses him, but it means to me that Bran is incorporeally manifested in the place and time of his visions. Is the Ice King Bran? No, I think not. They are two sentient beings occupying the same time frame, so it really doesn't make sense to me that the hypothesis is true. If the Ice King is to be stopped, it will need to be by a magic stronger than being able to command a 100k plus army of undead. Dragons seem to be a way, or well armed army with dragon glass weapons, or maybe something Samwell hasn't discovered yet. Knowing, or getting to know, G.R.R. Martin, I don't think his story arcs moral will be that might makes right, or overwhelming force is the solution. More likely, it will be a more cunning, or intellectual solution.


I think it is the perfect writers vehicle to allow for the HBO version of the tales, to then also be consistent with future book versions.

You clearly didn't watch the two video links, lol. Please, just give them a quick once over. Combined, they are less than 10-minutes, I implore you! There are talking points in there straight out of the TV series that were overlooked.

1. SUB-SPECIES
a. WHITE WALKERS: The Children created the first White Walkers via magic. The Ice King creates the White Walkers from Crasters children via magic.
b. ICE KING: The Ice King was created via Dragonglass in the heart. He is NOT a White Walker!
c. WIGHTS: The Wights (undead) are created by White Walkers. So, these are three distinct sub-species here.

2. BRAN IN TIME
a. BRAN THE BUILDER: He who built the wall. In depictions of him in the books, Bran the Builder is a cripple whom cannot walk and is carried about on a hoist or carriage, wise beyond his years with a knowledge to build the wall no one had ever seen or conceived of at the time.
b. ICE KING: Nan told Bran a story back in season 1 of the Ice King, who was said to be a Stark, brother to the King in the North, and whose name was Bran!

3. ICE KINGS ACTIONS
a. JON SNOW: The Ice King has encountered Jon Snow twice, and both times, did not personally engage him or let his White Walkers engage him, only his wights. Why does the Ice King have such an interest in Jon Snow. The Ice King could have easily walked over the frozen lake to refreeze the broken areas and let the wights finish Jon, but he did not.
b. DRAGON: And to that specific point, how and why did the Ice King know to bring giant chains with him for dragging out the Dragons corpse from the waters? What advanced knowledge did the Ice King possess that allowed him this foresight?
b. BRAN STARK: The Ice King seems pretty hell-bent on killing Bran Stark. I'd wager that if Bran indeed worged back into him and couldn't get out, that to break the cycle, the Ice King would try to end himself also. Think Hordor here. Once you watch the video about the warnings from the original three-eyed raven about going back too far, it'll all make sense!

4. SPECULATIONS
a. WINTERFELL DESTROYED: Those who survive flee South and regroup in Kings Landing.
b. KINGS LANDING: Besieged; at this time, to protect and save humanity, Bran worgs into the past to tell the Mad King to create MORE wild fire, which in turn makes him mad hearing Bran's whispers.
c. THE WALL: Bran tries worging further into the past to stop the White Walkers at the first war, but ends up helping create the Wall during this period.
d. ICE KING: Finally, Bran worgs to the creation of the Ice King against the three-eyed ravens prophecy of going back too far and ends up unable to prevent the Ice King from being created, so worgs directly into the Ice King to intervene, but again is unable to prevent it from happening, then is unable to return to his time due to the prophecy of the three-eyed raven coming true.

Watch the short video links and we can discuss. It's actually really exciting and intriguing.