03-08-2003, 05:39 AM
The Arabs ran into three consecutive buzz saws at the height of their influence.
1. The steel clad European Crusaders. for a couple of centuries starting in the late 1000's.
2. Around 1200ish, the Mongols, IIRC Ogadai or one of Kublai Khan's other sons
(IIRC, he razed Damascus and Bagdad. Foggy on a detail or two)
3. The Turks
These last were the coup de grace to the shining zenith of Arab enlightenment, though they adopted the Religion of The Prophet. It took about 600 years to get their boot off the collective Arab Neck, about the same lenght of time of the ascendancy and rise to prominence of Islam in Arabia and the Magreb.
We are only 4 generations away from that liberation. Mayhap in 100 years the Arabs can re discover their enlightenment. Maybe we can find a way to help them do that sooner.
After all, they gave us algebra, we owe them at least an effort. :)
Which brings us back to the post title at the top of the thread: what is it you/we wish for? We are sure to get it, one way or another. :o
1. The steel clad European Crusaders. for a couple of centuries starting in the late 1000's.
2. Around 1200ish, the Mongols, IIRC Ogadai or one of Kublai Khan's other sons
(IIRC, he razed Damascus and Bagdad. Foggy on a detail or two)
3. The Turks
These last were the coup de grace to the shining zenith of Arab enlightenment, though they adopted the Religion of The Prophet. It took about 600 years to get their boot off the collective Arab Neck, about the same lenght of time of the ascendancy and rise to prominence of Islam in Arabia and the Magreb.
We are only 4 generations away from that liberation. Mayhap in 100 years the Arabs can re discover their enlightenment. Maybe we can find a way to help them do that sooner.
After all, they gave us algebra, we owe them at least an effort. :)
Which brings us back to the post title at the top of the thread: what is it you/we wish for? We are sure to get it, one way or another. :o
Cry 'Havoc' and let slip the Men 'O War!
In War, the outcome is never final. --Carl von Clausewitz--
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
John 11:35 - consider why.
In Memory of Pete
In War, the outcome is never final. --Carl von Clausewitz--
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
John 11:35 - consider why.
In Memory of Pete