06-17-2012, 10:14 PM
(06-17-2012, 02:50 PM)FoxBat Wrote:(06-17-2012, 11:18 AM)Elric of Grans Wrote: Diablo II arguably redefined the standard, but can you really say it was a better game?
IMO, yes. Not that I didn't miss some things from D1, nor deny that D2 was way more imbalanced. But I certainly played it longer and had more fun with it.
Of course, you might disagree, but that's neither here nor there. The only thing we can point to is that D2 did redefine the genre and everyone tried to clone it, much as you can point to the effects quake and half-life had. (Unfortunately, Halo and maybe Call of Duty share those honors now..)
There have been a number of cool variants on the Diablo setup, but most of them are lacking in longevity. These days I don't think there is much incentive for most companies to create long-term games unless they can monetize it via subs/microtransactions. Maybe once the industry is convinced to stop investing in WoW clones, we will see some other kinds of online games emerge, including some higher-budget (D3 clone) ARPGs.
No, it was D1, not D2, that redefined the genre. D2 was amazingly successful, but that was due to the huge success and revolutionary aspect that D1 brought....in terms of the actual game itself, D2 COULD have been the better game than D1, but as it turned it, it wasn't. Balance is a very important factor, and D1 was head and shoulders superior in this department. We can all agree that in environment and overall charm, it is no contest, D1 is hands down superior. D2 had some of the right ideas to do what the original did and be even better, but it came up short as I saw it. Waaaaay too many changes that were not for the better. I played D1 for many years, never got into D2 for more than a month cause I anticipated it so much only to be utterly disappointed.
D3, IMO, is the game D2 SHOULD have been. Of course, D3 has its own problems, but I think what the game is trying to achieve and the overall concept of it is very well done. The skill system is light years beyond D2's, the classes are better overall (except maybe in the case of the DH vs Amazon), better graphics, and it is more challenging overall (even in normal-hell).
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"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)