DOMA and Prop 8. Both History.

[kandrathe]

After all, it was you that just said guys with full body tattoos should be working graveyard shifts at video stores, not I.

Did I say that? Nope. I have many friends who are tattooed, and modded. Morality was invented before Christ. Ever hear of Nicomachean Ethics? Aristotle? We have a very long history of contemplations on right versus wrong. Or, perhaps an Eastern flavor, Han Feizi? Morality is not relative, nor is it a negotiable quantity in a society based upon an agreed upon set of mores. The funny thing (to me) is that you flat out reject being a nihilist, and then in describing yourself almost classically define nihilism.

Merriam Webster says, a. "a viewpoint that traditional values and beliefs are unfounded and that existence is senseless and useless" -- maybe not so much the last part, but we've not really explored your life's purpose much.

But, man, you really are a bag full of external projections. Your condescension tends to ring hollow when you use that "You reactionaries" or "you cappies", or "you authoritarian, moralist, bigoted", blah blah blah... phrase to try to label people. So, full of labeling others and projecting your prejudices on others, but an incredible shortage of mirrors there I guess. Would you say you might be bigoted against "us cappies" and that there is no hate strong enough to express your prejudice?

See, what I said was... You are acting like (but I did hit the nail on the head too closely then ) a guy who is all pissed off at the world and shows the world you are pissed off by creating barriers -- in my example it was extensive tattoo's and body mods, but anything would do, including a furry bear costume. Of course the body tattooed guy shouldn't be discriminated against -- but realistically, he will. Why? Because he's created an intentional barrier between himself and that VP of sales position he deserves. He could do it by cross dressing, or wearing a pink spiky Mohawk. Is it right? No. Will it happen, undoubtedly. Did he have any control over the outcome? You bet.

I would say you have chosen the prickly demeanor because you feel rejected by the society. But, you subconsciously have telegraphed your rejection of the society that rejects you because you have made yourself all prickly. A catch-22, until you change the society, or change yourself to become "more normal". Which is more likely? Sometimes normality is not possible, when one is handicapped, or otherwise a minority, but often we scarify ourselves to make ourselves different. I gotta be me, but then, we ask ourselves why we're all alone. Because, you are different and have rejected society by choice. You are not the Elephant Man, so you can choose a different path. I'd start by eschewing the name calling. It's off putting.

I myself have a lot of tattoos, not a full body suit, but quite a bit, and I get annoyed when bigoted people stare at me or make snide comments. Thankfully it very rarely happens. I had one lady come up to me a few years ago and tell me that I was going to hell because I wasn't a moral person for having all those tattoos. I scoffed at her and said whatever and walked away, but I really wanted to tell her to go fuck herself and shove her morals where the sun don't shine, and that I'd give her a grand tour of the place when she was sent there for being a judgmental douche bag. I was nice enough not to say it, though I certainly could have w/o there being any repercussions. But I chose not to. I certainly did think it though.

That'd show her. You'd have surely proved her wrong then, right? We rise above small mindedness by rejecting small mindedness, not by embracing a different small mindedness. Sort of like road rage. You show the other driver who did something stupid, by doing something equally or more stupid. Who wins?

So save your authoritarian, subjective morality crap for someone who gives a fuck, or for other nihilists like you that love to make preconceived notions about people because they are different from you somehow. I don't talk to my own father for these very reasons: Cause he's a controlling, self-interested, materialistic, manipulative, conniving and judgmental jerk...that ruined my mom's and both my brother's lives because he ran his household like a fucking dictator (and attempted to ruin mine, but I was fortunate enough that I am as strong as I am to overcome the toxicity that he brings into any relationship), and in general, he is just a mean and despicable person. As most reactionary sociopaths and capitalists are.

Wow. Now we get to the roots of the problem. You'll only free yourself by forgiving him, and moving on. Until you bury it, for your own sake, it'll haunt you and ruin your life.