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[shoju]

Don't be envious. But don't hate them because their passion put them in a position where they are wealthy and famous. That isn't their fault. It's the society within which they live.

Shoju, you keep using the same flaw in your arguments against me.

I say I don't respect people just because they are a good athlete are musician.
I don't say I surely disrespect an athlete or musician.

The fact that I am biased against musicians and professional athlete just means it takes me longer to start respecting them (say, longer than a politician or whatever) but it doesn't mean I will never respect them.

I say, just being good in sports or music for me is not enough to respect someone.

(and this is really the last thing I say about this)

It's not a flaw in my logic. It's me taking what you said at face value.

You said you'd never heard his music.
You then said that you were biased against musicians.
You then went on to say that you didn't have respect for people just because they were good at something.
And then you went so far as to say that we (artists) are a self centered bunch of people, at least more so than the rest of the world.

And I'm telling you, that is a load of bullshit. You have automatically decided that this group of people have to go out of their way to make an impression on you because you don't like something about them.

That's.... just racism, applied to a different set of standards. Instead of being biased against someone because of their race, or because of their nationality, you have decided to bias yourself against a group of people because they have artistic talent.

Seriously? That's about the most batshit insane line of reasoning I've heard.