DOMA and Prop 8. Both History.

[eppie]

You know i always defend minorities, when people say stupid thinsg about them. Here I was just explaining what is going on in the Netherlands and what out government thinsg about it.
The high percentage of handicapped kids, and the arranged nature of these marriages are facts, they are not my opinion.

Oh, you're just explaining what the Dutch policy position was? Here I was, reading this as your argument, that it's okay to ban certain types of marriages, on the basis that they can be abused. Was I wrong about that?

-Jester

I am explaining that I think you should mix theory and practice when you come up with arguments in a discussion like this.
If a as a government you know that say (and I am just estimating some numbers here) every year 5 couples of cousins want to get married out of love and 3000 couples have cousin marriages arranged by their parents while the cousins have actually not seen each other more than 1 week in their whole life and many of the marriages end up in abuse, largely because of the power position of the husband who marries a girl who doesn't speak the language and is not allowed to go to language classes etc. etc. etc., you can decide to act on this.

It is very easy just to use your liberal mindset in a discussion like this and just turn away your face.

Personally I have slightly less rigid ideas about this compared to my government, but I clearly see the issue and think something needs to be done. My biggest issue here is that in almost every problem involving immigrants the anti-muslim politicians just want to ban everything all of the time so the discussion becomes a bit of a foul one usually.