I just bought a loaf of bread.

[kandrathe]

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Do I want him to invent a new moral system that legitimizes his desire to toss quaint concepts like decency, fairness, bread, and rational debate out the window? No, thank you very much; I would much rather communicate and teach. What if we collectively just told Deebye's apologists, "Sure, go ahead and create new (and reinforce existing) prejudices and misconceptions. Have fun!"? That would be worse than rude; it would send children to die as martyrs for causes that he is unwilling to die for himself.

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Well, exactly. Those poor kids would be TOAST!

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Didn't you know my father is an accomplished Bread Baker?

Shoju...

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I am your Father. Come to the dark side of the toaster.