10-01-2013, 09:31 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-01-2013, 10:38 PM by FireIceTalon.)
(10-01-2013, 08:01 PM)Jester Wrote:(10-01-2013, 07:54 PM)Taem Wrote: On NPR news today, they said government workers who've been furloughed will recieve retro-active pay, meaning no one is loosing their pay.
People gotta pay the bills, and not everyone takes IOUs.
-Jester
Pretty much this.
And while I would like for Taem to be right, there is no evidence as of yet that this is or will be the case. With all the austerity going on as it is, it plausible that federal employees are gonna get the shaft.
On another note, I wonder how many working class Republicans are closet fans of Obamacare. Many of them are openly opposed to it, but the fact a large percentage of the working class goes without healthcare makes me think that many of them will use it 'in the dark'. I'm not a fan of it either (for different reasons of course, mainly because I do not think it is sufficient), but as someone who has gone without any healthcare for years now (besides the occasional trip to a dentist when I can afford it), I will reluctantly use it. Although I still cannot grasp for the life of me why so many people in this country are opposed to a full-blown single payer healthcare system, when practically the rest of the Western world has it in some form or another. I suspect it has something to do with the ultra-libertarian political roots and minimal government attitude that was a foundation since the Revolution, but surely most people can agree that access to decent healthcare is practically a basic need as much as food, water, or shelter is regardless of ones political stance. If not, it certainly comes very close. This isn;t even about socialism vs. capitalism, this is about common human decency.
The American people voted to have Obamacare (both directly and indirectly), and the Supreme Court upheld it when it went there, yet the GOP insists that we don't want it and shouldn't have it (I can't believe I am actually defending this bill, but I am doing it to make a point). This is pure evidence that they are only interested in maintaining their political privileges or trying to discredit the president they hate so much, and not in making policy that reflects the will of the people (whether it is right or wrong, or whether, in the big scheme of things, it is ultimately futile regardless). The very fact they are willing to shut down the government over the fact they hate this president so much, despite potential consequences this will have for a large amount of people, really shows a lot of who and what they are. And it isn't pretty.
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"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)