Shoju's 1.0 Stuff.
#63
(01-16-2014, 03:58 AM)Mavfin Wrote:
(01-15-2014, 03:38 PM)shoju Wrote: 6.) The Official Forum Community is very "lemming-esque", and will follow the chorus of the streamers, even if the streamers are wrong.

This seems to be a rather common affliction in many games, not just ARPGs.

I guess I never understood the appeal of watching *someone else* play the game and describe it to me, *unless* it was in closed beta or for some other reason I couldn't get access to it myself at that stage, and even then, I can only watch so long...

I've tried to get active in the discussion about builds centered around Spectral Throw. I have 81 levels under my belt with the skill. I've done a ton of testing, a lot of math, and I've dropped a TON of respec points on things, trying out new ideas for the build. All 19 you get from questing, and another 40 ish in regrets so far.

The Streamers, only use Spectral Throw as a ranged AoE skill, and then move to a melee skill for single target. Their reason? Spectral Throw doesn't have enough umph to be your "boss skill" This is just ridiculous.

I run two copies of the skill.
One, setup in a very similar way to them. Multi Projectiles to make it AoE, more damage, life leech, etc...
One, setup to MOW THINGS DOWN. Whether it is one target, or a lot of targets coming through a choke point. The DPS is just stellar.

Why, you would run a great RANGED SKILL for AoE, and then run the risk of getting destroyed in melee for single target, on the mobs that hit the hardest is just absolutely baffling. And all because, you haven't figured out something that was pretty easy to understand.

And when someone comes in with a differing opinion, you bash them, and tell them that they don't know what they are talking about.

I'm by no means a super end game player. I have run less than 10 70+ maps. Because I just don't have them to run them. BUT. In the ones that I have run, the same thing holds true that has held true in every map I've run so far.

Spectral Throw, is superior to a melee skill in every single way, if you are already setup for Spectral Throw as an AoE skill. There are some nodes that will affect your melee attacks, but not spectral throw. Why waste points to do something like that? I'm a firm believer in making sure that every point in the passive tree matters. This is the first character that I've dived this far into the theory with. I've debunked several things that people held as "true" for the skill, and I'm clearing things with ease because of it.

So, back to why I posted that comment. Someone posted for help the other day, asking why they were dying, why they didn't have the DPS they thought they should, in short, why they weren't able to do as well as the streamer they were watching and copying.

When I tried to address some of the problems, they just immediately came back with the fingers in the ears "BUT HE DOES IT THIS WAY!"

My only response was: Then why are you having problems, and he isn't?

/sigh.

I'm just... I don't understand. IF you come asking for help, and someone is offering help, why turn their help down, because you think you know what you are doing?
nobody ever slaughtered an entire school with a smart phone and a twitter account – they have, however, toppled governments. - Jim Wright
Reply


Messages In This Thread
Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 10-23-2013, 11:39 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 10-25-2013, 02:14 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 10-27-2013, 04:50 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 10-27-2013, 08:17 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by LennyLen - 10-27-2013, 11:44 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 10-29-2013, 03:54 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by Frag - 10-29-2013, 07:58 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 10-30-2013, 01:59 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by Frag - 10-30-2013, 07:12 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 10-30-2013, 08:00 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 10-31-2013, 02:40 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by LennyLen - 10-31-2013, 10:11 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 11-01-2013, 12:28 AM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by LennyLen - 11-01-2013, 04:51 AM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 11-01-2013, 03:21 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 11-04-2013, 01:09 AM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by Frag - 11-06-2013, 12:36 AM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 11-06-2013, 02:08 AM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 11-06-2013, 02:09 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 11-07-2013, 02:11 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 11-08-2013, 03:15 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by Frag - 11-08-2013, 09:17 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 11-09-2013, 06:56 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by Frag - 11-09-2013, 09:14 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 11-10-2013, 01:54 AM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 11-11-2013, 11:46 AM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 11-11-2013, 02:59 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by Frag - 11-12-2013, 12:08 AM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by MonTy - 11-13-2013, 02:06 AM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 11-13-2013, 02:27 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by MonTy - 11-14-2013, 01:46 AM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by Frag - 11-14-2013, 02:58 AM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 11-14-2013, 02:47 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 11-18-2013, 12:08 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 11-19-2013, 02:00 AM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 11-19-2013, 06:20 AM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by Frag - 11-19-2013, 02:36 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 11-19-2013, 03:04 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 11-27-2013, 02:21 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by LochnarITB - 11-27-2013, 08:04 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 11-27-2013, 10:06 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by Frag - 11-28-2013, 02:11 AM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by MonTy - 11-28-2013, 03:27 AM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 11-28-2013, 12:58 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by MonTy - 11-28-2013, 02:50 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 12-06-2013, 05:23 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 12-09-2013, 03:51 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 12-10-2013, 08:58 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by Lissa - 12-11-2013, 04:44 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 12-11-2013, 05:17 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by MonTy - 12-12-2013, 02:21 AM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 12-12-2013, 03:13 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by Chesspiece_face - 12-13-2013, 12:02 AM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by Frag - 12-12-2013, 08:01 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 12-13-2013, 02:37 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 12-16-2013, 06:25 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 12-23-2013, 02:16 AM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 01-02-2014, 02:16 AM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 01-10-2014, 08:47 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by MonTy - 01-11-2014, 09:35 AM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 01-15-2014, 03:38 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by Mavfin - 01-16-2014, 03:58 AM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 01-16-2014, 03:12 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 01-21-2014, 04:34 AM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by MonTy - 01-21-2014, 04:35 AM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 01-21-2014, 04:46 AM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 01-21-2014, 11:48 AM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 01-21-2014, 03:27 PM
RE: Shoju's 1.0 Stuff. - by shoju - 01-23-2014, 05:01 PM

Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)