Economics and China
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(12-07-2015, 07:30 PM)FireIce Wrote: [quote='kandrathe' pid='211974' dateline='1449507170']1 2 3 4 I declare a thumb war. Wait, I will not descend to your childish level here.

No, what you will descend into is more insults, douchebaggery, and being guilty of ageism yet AGAIN. But more on that later.

Quote:This is your intolerance to whatever you declare to be to the right of you, which is most everyone. You're preferred method of argument is to label (strawman) your opponent, then "destroy" the strawman. You've accused almost everyone here of being right wing, even when they are most assuredly not.

In memory of the time I gave a damn Smile

Indeed, I am intolerant to racism, sexism, narratives that teach hatred and victim blaming of the poor and working class, religous bigotry and discriminatory views towards marginalized groups as a whole. Like it or not, those views are the rule among right-wingers, not the exception - so there is no strawman there. I am intolerant of those views, and will continue to be so because right wing hegemony needs to be challenged head on. Nor do I make any apologies about it. What, you don't like that? Cry me a river, build a bridge, and you know the rest.

Quote:I'm not even the most "right wing" person here, just the one that perhaps overly tenaciously challenges your BS. In many ways I'm extremely liberal. Most of the "lurkers" here are just tired of both of our unending bickering. For my part, I just have to resist the compulsion to "fix the internet". Our discussions can go nowhere, in the most part because, as with your statement above, you do not provide sources or examples.

LOL, yes, our discussions going nowhere is entirely on me, and me alone. You are not part of the problem Rolleyes. The truth is, we simply will never agree because the foundations of our views are diametrically opposed, no ones fault there. But aside from that....

I provided many examples in our "debate" a couple weeks ago, most which you glossed over or dismissed with "blah blah blah" - probably because you had no refutation to them. But as I stated before, right-wingers tend to not like facts - especially those facts that provide inconvenient truths to their deplorable worldview. No one ever wants to admit they hold such views, but as I stated before, you have to face the music one day.

Not that I care much for liberals either, but you are not a liberal (except in the sense you dream of a utopian, unbridled free market - which will never, ever happen - and even if it did, the place would be an utter shithole). I look at libertarianism as nothing more than a trendy form of right-wing hipsterism, having a few tenets that appeal to some political liberal principles/issues (legalization of pot, support of same sex marriage, and perhaps an anti-war stance in some cases) but is really just another rotten, right-wing ideology in its core - which can easily be found once you go below the surface a little bit and start deconstructing it. Libertarianism is the right-wing appeal to "political correctness", with a shot of conspiracy theory rhetoric thrown in. Or, in a word, garbage.

Quote:You tend to bloviate and regurgitate the same cud.

Pot + Kettle = black

Quote:HA, nope. Just intolerant of people who act out in tantrums, and are generally churlish.

Um, wrong again. You referenced to the state of being a child as a negative or derogatory. That is ageist, regardless if its context is implicit rather than direct. To further my point....

If you say "stop acting like a woman" that is sexist, is it not? Or by your logic, "stop acting like a Jew" or "stop acting like a black person" aren't racist statements? They are extremely sexist and racist, respectively. Just as calling something or someone "retarded" (whether that person is or not) is extremely derogatory to those who have a cognitive disorder or special needs. And calling someone childish is also ageist for the same reasons - because it is used an insult to imply that children and/or their opinions are worthless, shouldn't be paid attention to, are short-sighted or otherwise inferior in some way; coupled with the fact it is generally children who suffer most from the inequalities and oppression of capitalism and are often the most voiceless due to ageist attitudes toward them.

The whole purpose of using the term is to dehumanize the person being called that by reducing them or their view to a perceived brain state. It works much in the same way as when many gay/lesbians/transgender teens or young adults are told by their elders "its just a phase, you will grow out of it" - that is also ageist.

I've seen the term "childish" most often used in political debate as a slur to try and bring others down whose views they disagree with - and almost always it is a reactionary saying it to someone with leftist views (whether bourgeois leftist or radical leftist), as is the case here. Your logic is the same crap I hear from racists who spew "I don't hate all black people, just the ones who act like thugs".

So with all that being said, you are in fact ageist. But moreover, you're just a complete asshat in general. Back on ignore you go (not sure why I ever removed you in the first place, silly me), so don't even bother with a reply.
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"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)
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Economics and China - by kandrathe - 08-27-2015, 06:02 PM
RE: Economics and China - by Jester - 08-29-2015, 10:36 AM
RE: Economics and China - by kandrathe - 09-01-2015, 02:59 PM
RE: Economics and China - by Taem - 09-01-2015, 05:04 PM
RE: Economics and China - by FireIceTalon - 09-01-2015, 07:22 PM
RE: Economics and China - by Taem - 09-02-2015, 08:40 AM
RE: Economics and China - by kandrathe - 09-02-2015, 08:43 PM
RE: Economics and China - by Taem - 09-03-2015, 07:39 PM
RE: Economics and China - by kandrathe - 09-04-2015, 04:09 PM
RE: Economics and China - by LavCat - 09-04-2015, 04:58 PM
RE: Economics and China - by kandrathe - 09-04-2015, 08:55 PM
RE: Economics and China - by eppie - 09-26-2015, 08:54 AM
RE: Economics and China - by kandrathe - 10-09-2015, 06:32 PM
RE: Economics and China - by Taem - 09-04-2015, 07:18 PM
RE: Economics and China - by kandrathe - 09-04-2015, 08:42 PM
RE: Economics and China - by Taem - 09-05-2015, 05:58 PM
RE: Economics and China - by kandrathe - 09-08-2015, 05:24 PM
RE: Economics and China - by Taem - 09-08-2015, 07:23 PM
RE: Economics and China - by kandrathe - 09-08-2015, 08:36 PM
RE: Economics and China - by Taem - 09-08-2015, 10:54 PM
RE: Economics and China - by kandrathe - 09-08-2015, 11:44 PM
RE: Economics and China - by Jester - 09-08-2015, 12:54 PM
RE: Economics and China - by Taem - 09-08-2015, 06:25 PM
RE: Economics and China - by Taem - 10-27-2015, 05:14 PM
RE: Economics and China - by Taem - 10-27-2015, 06:32 PM
RE: Economics and China - by kandrathe - 10-29-2015, 05:21 PM
RE: Economics and China - by Jester - 10-30-2015, 08:27 AM
RE: Economics and China - by kandrathe - 10-30-2015, 02:35 PM
RE: Economics and China - by Jester - 10-30-2015, 03:40 PM
RE: Economics and China - by kandrathe - 10-30-2015, 04:06 PM
RE: Economics and China - by Jester - 10-30-2015, 07:59 PM
RE: Economics and China - by kandrathe - 10-30-2015, 08:54 PM
RE: Economics and China - by Taem - 11-08-2015, 06:48 AM
RE: Economics and China - by kandrathe - 11-09-2015, 08:50 PM
RE: Economics and China - by Taem - 11-25-2015, 05:45 AM
RE: Economics and China - by kandrathe - 11-25-2015, 01:46 PM
RE: Economics and China - by FireIceTalon - 10-27-2015, 07:12 PM
RE: Economics and China - by LavCat - 10-28-2015, 04:14 AM
RE: Economics and China - by FireIceTalon - 11-10-2015, 08:32 PM
RE: Economics and China - by kandrathe - 11-11-2015, 01:22 PM
RE: Economics and China - by FireIceTalon - 11-11-2015, 09:53 PM
RE: Economics and China - by kandrathe - 11-11-2015, 11:50 PM
RE: Economics and China - by FireIceTalon - 11-12-2015, 08:55 AM
RE: Economics and China - by kandrathe - 11-12-2015, 01:29 PM
RE: Economics and China - by FireIceTalon - 11-12-2015, 06:44 PM
RE: Economics and China - by kandrathe - 11-16-2015, 07:48 PM
RE: Economics and China - by FireIceTalon - 11-16-2015, 11:11 PM
RE: Economics and China - by kandrathe - 11-18-2015, 01:32 PM
RE: Economics and China - by FireIceTalon - 11-24-2015, 10:16 AM
RE: Economics and China - by kandrathe - 11-24-2015, 02:28 PM
RE: Economics and China - by kandrathe - 11-18-2015, 07:58 PM
RE: Economics and China - by Mavfin - 11-21-2015, 04:21 AM
RE: Economics and China - by FireIceTalon - 11-21-2015, 09:05 AM
RE: Economics and China - by kandrathe - 11-23-2015, 04:23 PM
RE: Economics and China - by FireIceTalon - 11-24-2015, 06:35 PM
RE: Economics and China - by kandrathe - 11-25-2015, 03:08 AM
RE: Economics and China - by Taem - 11-25-2015, 05:56 AM
RE: Economics and China - by FireIceTalon - 11-25-2015, 09:02 AM
RE: Economics and China - by kandrathe - 12-07-2015, 04:52 PM
RE: Economics and China - by FireIceTalon - 12-07-2015, 07:30 PM
RE: Economics and China - by kandrathe - 12-07-2015, 09:29 PM
RE: Economics and China - by Lissa - 12-13-2015, 06:53 PM
RE: Economics and China - by kandrathe - 12-14-2015, 03:13 PM
RE: Economics and China - by kandrathe - 12-22-2015, 03:28 PM

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