10-12-2016, 04:27 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-12-2016, 04:35 PM by FireIceTalon.)
Quote:Worse than the candidates is that society apparantly is ok with this.
Yes. Although there is certainly a growing discontent for the status quo and I think a lot of people are finally realizing they are getting played for fools. Most people I talk to hate both of these candidates, even people who generally align themselves with a respective party. It's a start I suppose, but we still have a loooong way to go.
Quote:To me it is showing the failure of democracy. Voting doesn't happen because of the issues but because of hatred towards a candidate or one liners.
'Bourgeois democracy' (if you can even call it democracy at all) has been a failure and a sham from day 1, but the politics have been dumbed down even more to further blur or altogether hide the elephant in the room....shown in 10 second soundbytes with catchy (but meaningless) buzz words and jargon on single issues to spark peoples emotions.
Talking about class is considered offensive or 'socialist', although on the rare occasions it is brought up, it is only brought up in the context of income inequality or the like - rather than who owns the means of prouction, which is the root of the problem. Such ideas held by bourgeois leftist parties are considered radical positions in the media, while socialist positions are ignored entirely (and no, Sanders is not a socialist)....so people are offered only a very particular conventional and rigid framework that they have to discourse within. Identity politics continue to rule the day.
Ideas like trade unionism, a $15 minimum wage, student loan forgiveness, taxing the wealthiest of citizens, calling for police to stop their systemic killing of minorities, etc are all still considered radical ideas.....for communists, such ideas are merely the BEGINNING for social change, not the end.
Quote:I think I wrote the same things when GW Bush was running for president.....but your society apparantly hasnt learned anything from that disaster.
Well, as I've said many times in the past, big capital has complete control of all outlets in society - from education to the media, so they dictate the narrative and what is allowed to be discussed in it. This makes change (intentionally so) very difficult. Until the working class can organize itself into a political force by understanding its objective interests to counter ruling class ideology, pro-capitalist agendas and mainstream capitalist parties like Republicans and Democrats, change will never come.
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"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)
"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)