10-31-2016, 06:22 PM
(This post was last modified: 10-31-2016, 07:12 PM by FireIceTalon.)
(10-31-2016, 06:04 PM)kandrathe Wrote: Because he was more of the *darling* of the DNC in 2008. Even though, her ~7 years (in 2006-07) as NY senator was more than Obama's ~2 years as Senator of Illinois. Obama was *all* non-specific "Hope and Change" while her (and Bill's) semi-progressive very neocon agenda was pretty clear. She was resoundingly attacked by left and right, the same as this time. Although, this time she managed to get leverage in the DNC (2016 DNC chair Tim Kaine was made into VP candidate, versus a 2008 political opponent Howard "YeeHaa" Dean). But, as much as you'd like to look at overall votes -- Sanders almost won. He just needed the oomph given to Clinton by the DNC favoritism.
Not only that, but if you compare the Republican nominee from those respective elections....most Republicans backed Mccain pretty faithfully in 2008. Had Hillary won the DNC over Obama, I think it would have been much more difficult for her to win the general election vs Mccain - at least compared to this years election. Granted she hasn't won this year yet, but its almost a foregone conclusion at this point that she will.
Trump is a complete buffoon who is disliked even by the majority of his own party, liked only by the most extremist of right-winged sociopaths and reactionaries or the brainless (well, same thing).
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"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)