U.S. Presidential debate
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You should keep in mind this is a guy who said, and I quote unquote, "what is the point of having nuclear weapons if we aren't going to use them". That in itself, is pretty terrifying. So yea, you should be worried if you aren't.

But beyond that, I think its kind of selfish if not shortsighted of you to not care what Trump does just because you don't live here. This man has said he wants to deport all "illegal aliens" (just his use of this verbage alone to describe them is very derogatory), force Mexico to build a wall on the border, has referred to women in the most objectifying and sexist of ways you can imagine, is guilty of sexual assault, has quoted and admires Mussolini.....not to mention all his racist, xenophobic, and anti-working class rhetoric. The KKK openly endorses him. And of course as you mentioned, his environmental policies which are absolutely rubbish.

America just regressed about 200 years. Obamacare (despite all its problems, mainly that it didn't go far enough) is history. Marriage equality? Certainly jeopardized. Roe vs. Wade will probably get repealed. Planned Parenthood? History. Extravagant tax cuts and entitlement programs for the capitalist class left and right. Gutting of social programs for the poor and working class across the board. 'Stop and Frisk" will now probably become federal law to further empower the American Gestapo so they can murder, beat and harass even more innocent minorities. I also predict an impending attack on several pieces of legislation associated with civil rights at some point as well, which would be very easy for him to do with a conservative congress and soon to be SC to back him. To top it all off, and what makes it all the more scary, is that he has an armed-to-the-teeth constituency that is ready to go to war for him.

I don't think you can understand the magnitude of this. World is FUCKED now, big time. Unless you're Russia, I guess.

But at the end of the day, liberals have no one but themselves to blame for this. THIS is what happens, when you pander to shallow identity politics while abandoning class politics as the lexicon and coalition within the working class for social change (not to mention serving corporate interests all the while paying this fake lip service). The Right will inevitably be able to infiltrate said class if you make no attempt to appeal to workers qua workers. Communists and socialists will always be superior in representing the interests of the working class than silly "left-wing progressives" - both on the ground and ideologically. Always.

If America would have had a strong Socialist movement, chances are most workers would have moved to the left instead of falling for the populist right-wing rhetoric of a proto-fascist buffoon. It's 1930's Italy all over again, reborn Yankee style. This election and its result are the SHINING confirmation of why I am a Marxist, and not some utopian liberal that think Capitalism can be (or should be) reformed by voting in sham bourgeois elections. Election after election we Marxists are proven correct each and every time, but this one REALLY confirms it now that Fascism has officially come to Amerikkka. Well, once we organize, there will come a time when it will be open season on Fascists, and good riddance.

You didn't break the glass ceiling, Hillary. You broke the fucking glass FLOOR, so now we will all fall into the abyss of Trumpism. In short, thanks for fucking nothing.
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"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)


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U.S. Presidential debate - by FireIceTalon - 09-29-2016, 06:21 PM
RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by Taem - 09-29-2016, 07:49 PM
RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by FireIceTalon - 09-30-2016, 01:56 AM
RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by kandrathe - 09-29-2016, 08:59 PM
RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by Taem - 09-30-2016, 03:19 AM
RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by LavCat - 09-30-2016, 04:17 AM
RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by FireIceTalon - 09-30-2016, 05:22 AM
RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by Taem - 10-01-2016, 03:40 AM
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RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by FireIceTalon - 10-05-2016, 05:59 PM
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RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by FireIceTalon - 10-12-2016, 04:27 PM
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RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by Jester - 10-13-2016, 10:54 AM
RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by kandrathe - 10-13-2016, 07:34 PM
RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by Jester - 10-14-2016, 09:10 AM
RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by FireIceTalon - 10-14-2016, 07:55 PM
RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by Jester - 10-14-2016, 09:53 PM
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RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by FireIceTalon - 10-14-2016, 07:37 PM
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RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by FireIceTalon - 10-27-2016, 05:31 PM
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RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by Jester - 10-29-2016, 12:12 PM
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RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by Lissa - 11-05-2016, 07:00 PM
RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by kandrathe - 11-06-2016, 07:22 AM
RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by FireIceTalon - 11-08-2016, 07:32 PM
RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by FireIceTalon - 11-09-2016, 05:36 AM
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RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by FireIceTalon - 11-10-2016, 05:41 PM
RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by kandrathe - 11-10-2016, 07:39 PM
RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by Ashock - 11-09-2016, 11:16 PM
RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by FireIceTalon - 11-09-2016, 11:23 PM
RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by Alram - 11-10-2016, 03:40 AM
RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by FireIceTalon - 11-10-2016, 03:54 AM
RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by Alram - 11-10-2016, 09:57 AM
RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by FireIceTalon - 11-10-2016, 05:04 PM
RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by Jester - 11-10-2016, 12:55 PM
RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by FireIceTalon - 11-10-2016, 07:58 PM
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RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by FireIceTalon - 11-11-2016, 06:34 PM
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RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by Ashock - 11-18-2016, 04:39 PM
RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by FireIceTalon - 11-16-2016, 06:35 PM
RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by kandrathe - 11-17-2016, 12:23 AM
RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by Jester - 11-17-2016, 11:51 AM
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RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by FireIceTalon - 11-16-2016, 09:14 PM
RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by FireIceTalon - 11-17-2016, 05:25 AM
RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by FireIceTalon - 11-22-2016, 07:36 PM
RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by kandrathe - 11-22-2016, 09:28 PM
RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by Jester - 11-23-2016, 08:45 AM
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RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by Ashock - 11-25-2016, 05:17 PM
RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by FireIceTalon - 11-25-2016, 08:06 PM
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RE: U.S. Presidential debate - by FireIceTalon - 11-25-2016, 09:11 PM
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