Autism, exploitation and Capitalism
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(12-16-2016, 04:33 PM)Ashock Wrote: You are a walking definition of insanity according to Einstein. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result every time.

Einstein was ideologically a socialist, lol. You know, you should probably do a little more research next time in selecting who you quote from to drive a point home Wink

That quote, ironically enough, applies to capitalism and its sham elections to a T, where people think voting for their rulers every couple years can or will actually change things meaningfully. Anyways, I'm also getting bored of this discussion, so I am going to just put the hammer down, once and for all, with authority. There will be no recovery for you, from this.

All the examples you listed "failed" not because socialism doesn't or can't work, but because in almost all of them the bourgeois imperialists did EVERYTHING in their power to make sure the revolutions failed - through sabatoge, counter-revolution and civil war, economic embargos, creation and backing of fascist dictatorships, murdering and imprisoning leftists, and of course, propaganda and slandering of socialist ideas. They used pretty much every tactic under the sun to accomplish this. Then you have the audacity to say "hey look, socialism doesn't work!". For a long time, these lies and slanderings have been very effective, but people are starting to see through this bullshit.

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Brilliant contextomy there of Trotsky to make it sound like he advocated starvation and cannibilism, and a shining example of the slandering I mentioned above. He actually was referring to the 1921 Russian famine that occurred as a result of the Civil War caused by the imperialist, reactionary, anti-semetic White Movement forces that sought to sabatoge the gains of the 1917 Revolution and ultimately restore a monarchy in Russia; when messengers for starving European peasants supposedly came to him for help. Too bad there isn't even any source that can reliably claim he ever made this statement to begin with, but even if he did, it was more or less his (blunt) way of saying to them, "we have bigger problems in our own country right now, sorry but we can't help you at this time".

But the irony of it all is this: it was BECAUSE OF reactionary forces that held ideologies similar to yours that there was a Civil War to begin with, which destroyed the countries resources and infastructure and resulted in these attrocities that you decry so much. The Revolution itself was relatively bloodless in comparison to the Civil War that the imperialist White Army imposed upon the Bolsheviks. Historians often say the Bolsheviks won this Civil War, but only in the short run. In the long run, they really didn't because the costs of it were so exboritant and crippling for Russian society that building a socialist economy became impossible; in already rather difficult circumstances. And so, the restoration of capitalism eventually was the only logical result. Then, once again, you have the gall to label communism a failure. This is a farce. Fashies, monarchs, anti-semites, capitalists, and other reactionary scum ultimately have no one else but THEMSELVES to blame for all the attrocities that followed in Russia - the Stalin regime INCLUDED since he would have never came to power if the White Imperialists had just left the Revolution be. For someone who supposedly lived in the former SU, your historical knowledge of it, to put it nicely, is trash. The ahistorical, slandering, revisionist crud you spew is astounding (if sometimes comical), but let my post here be the final, decisive nail in your intellectual coffin. I've conversed with people who are still in MIDDLE SCHOOL that understand Russian history (and history period) better than you do.

Quote:I kind of forgot who I'm dealing with. I now remember and I'm frankly bored.

Ok cya. Not that there is any coming back for you after this post, you have lost all credibility on this subject so anything you say on it from here on out, I will kindly disregard. I'm guided by facts, historical & scientific inquiry, and reason. You're guided by ideology, conspiracy theories & mythology, and emotion; thats the difference between us.
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RE: Autism, exploitation and Capitalism - by FireIceTalon - 12-16-2016, 05:36 PM
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