So not a hate crime?
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(01-07-2017, 09:47 PM)LennyLen Wrote: Without trying to get bogged down into your country's politics and history (which I have almost less than zero interest in), I have a question. Do you really believe that the only difference between racism and discrimination is that one is systematic and the other isn't? I can see how such a definition works well with your narrative, but it seems extremely narrow minded. Even the Wikipedia article you linked to states that systematic racism is just one form of racism. If you follow the internal link to what racism is, they define it as discrimination. In other words, your own definitions do not align with the sources you're using to back yourself up.

Mostly, I am concerned with the first 2 paragraphs of the Wiki link for my purposes, and not so much with the links within them which may or may not align with my main argument. Also, the first link I provided with the 7 myths of "reverse racism", are pretty concrete in backing up my main argument that reverse racism is essentially, a myth.

Racism and discrimination indeed are two similar and related concepts, but they have some very important differences. Racism is always systemic and institutional, whereas discrimination need not be. Further, discrimination is a far broader term that can have implications other than race, such as gender, class, disability, etc. Generally, it is more action based than racism. Racist institutions are generally what give discriminatory acts their traction by creating power relations between different races in society - in America's case, the superiority of whites over non-whites.

For instance, and this is completely hypothetical: if I worked at a store that refused service to black people, and told every black customer that I couldn't help them, that would be an act of discrimination on my part, but not racism. However, the companies policy of not serving black people IS indeed racist because it is centered around an ideal that blacks are inferior to whites, in one or multiple ways. The companies policy is institutionalized, and therefore racist. I may choose to abide by that policy, for whatever reason, without actually agreeing with it, which is discriminatory on my part but not racist.

On the other hand, one may hold prejudice views towards those not of their race, but never actually act upon them. Or, they may hold such views AND act upon them, but not achieve any benefit from it if they are not the privileged and empowered race in that society.
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So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-05-2017, 09:17 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-05-2017, 10:31 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Occhidiangela - 01-21-2017, 03:26 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-06-2017, 03:38 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-06-2017, 06:22 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-06-2017, 08:57 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-06-2017, 09:28 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Taem - 01-07-2017, 01:05 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-07-2017, 07:23 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by LennyLen - 01-07-2017, 09:47 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-07-2017, 11:04 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by EspyLacopa - 01-08-2017, 12:51 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-08-2017, 01:13 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-08-2017, 02:40 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-08-2017, 01:06 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-08-2017, 02:46 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-08-2017, 03:01 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-08-2017, 03:16 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-08-2017, 04:37 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-08-2017, 05:18 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-08-2017, 03:44 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by EspyLacopa - 01-08-2017, 04:48 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-08-2017, 06:40 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-10-2017, 12:52 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Archon_Wing - 01-10-2017, 06:25 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-10-2017, 09:30 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-11-2017, 11:48 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-12-2017, 05:25 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-12-2017, 06:32 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-12-2017, 07:04 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-13-2017, 02:53 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-13-2017, 04:26 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-13-2017, 09:02 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-13-2017, 09:53 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-13-2017, 10:10 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-13-2017, 10:01 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-12-2017, 09:16 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-13-2017, 05:27 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-13-2017, 06:34 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-13-2017, 06:44 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-13-2017, 06:50 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Archon_Wing - 01-13-2017, 09:04 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-13-2017, 09:15 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Taem - 01-14-2017, 09:35 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-15-2017, 04:48 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Archon_Wing - 01-15-2017, 12:41 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-15-2017, 06:28 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Taem - 01-18-2017, 07:45 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-18-2017, 10:39 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-18-2017, 11:15 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Archon_Wing - 01-18-2017, 11:48 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-20-2017, 01:45 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Archon_Wing - 01-20-2017, 03:39 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-20-2017, 04:00 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-24-2017, 12:01 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-24-2017, 08:30 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-24-2017, 08:39 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by eppie - 01-25-2017, 07:57 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-25-2017, 05:39 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Taem - 01-25-2017, 08:58 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-25-2017, 09:55 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-26-2017, 03:37 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Bolty - 01-26-2017, 05:10 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-26-2017, 05:41 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-26-2017, 10:10 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-27-2017, 05:07 PM

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