So not a hate crime?
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(01-12-2017, 05:25 PM)Ashock Wrote: http://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5-sta...on-bandler

Enjoy.

Oh and if you think that BLM was created for the reason you stated, then we don't have much to discuss on this topic.

The statistics in the source you provided are greatly skewed and misconstrued in a way so that they don't tell the the whole/correct story - because the source you provided isn't constructed to provide actual statistics in an genuine attempt at understanding actual material conditions, but rather to pander to the direction of your specific ideological narrative.

This source provides a more accurate and complete interpretation of what is really goin' on.

Quote:A 2015 study by a University of California at Davis researcher concluded there was “no relationship” between crime rates by race and racial bias in police killings. A report released last week by the Center for Policing Equity, which reviewed arrest and use-of-force data from 12 police departments, concluded that black residents were more often targeted for use of police force than white residents, even when adjusting for whether the person was a violent criminal.

Nor does your red herring source provide anything to disprove Kandrathe's point that BLM was developed as a reaction and resistance against systemic police killings of blacks.

I absolutely abhor what these people did to this poor guy, especially in light of the fact that he is clearly and severely disabled. He did not deserve this to happen to him. However, I equally abhor obnoxious right-wingers like yourself using this as an opportunity to scapegoat and vilifiy BLM (especially when there isn't even a shred of evidence that this incident is linked to them), and black people as a whole as you have done throughout this thread.

Quote:Yeah, whites already fought for it. Who else did? Africans? Nope. Asians? Nope. Muslims? Nope. As I pointed out earlier, whites are the first ones who abolished slavery. The fact that it exists in certain dark corners of the world is not the doing of white people and has not been for many years now. You remind me of Don Quixote fighting windmills that he imagines are giants

This is the type of historically white-washed revisionist crap that we hear every goddamn day. Thinking whites, the biggest perpetrators and beneficiaries of slavery and institutionalized racism in general, where the first and only group to fight racism and slavery is not only historical bullshit, but is extremely insulting and degrading to non-whites. I would go as far to say that your view is actually a pro-slavery one dressed up as the so-called 'white savior complex' myth.

White people were NOT the first people to fight slavery or racism. Your whole view is one of white nationalist idealism. Blacks being completely docile and not fighting for their freedom is one of the biggest historical lies and misconceptions of all time:

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/african-american...ves-rebel/

^^That alone, is quite sufficient in discrediting your entire theory. One only needs to conduct an rudimentary historical investigation of slavery to see that you are utterly wrong.

And, what about the countless, undocumented/lesser known rebellions and escape attempts from slaves throughout its history? What about larger, more famous resistances such as the Hatian Revolution? Blacks were fighting slavery looooooong before the Emancipation Proclamation was even a thought. Blacks also fought in the Civil War itself (with key figures such as Frederick Douglas leading the way), so no, whites do NOT get all the credit for ending slavery either. They certainly get a ton of credit, and rightfully so, for starting it, however.

Perhaps you should learn some REAL history instead of listening to the crap that morons like Rush pollute your feeble mind with.

Quote:If you only concentrate on the past, then you will never understand the present. Yeah, there's a gap, but it's economic not racial. If you have a problem with that, talk to the resident communist.

Kandrathe need not talk to me about this. Me and him are worlds apart politically speaking, but he correctly pointed out here that you cannot seperate the symbiotic relationship of class and race in American history.

To understand the present requires an historical investigation and understanding of the past. Class division and struggle is the fundamental driving force of history, but it would be incorrect to say that in the case of America that there is not a racial element intertwined with it, because there undeniably is, and it goes all the way back to 1676 with Bacon's Rebellion. In the aftermath of this uprising, the white ruling classes came to realize that a unified black and white working class uprising was a threat to their power and status, and they knew it was necessary to fracture them based upon a false but politically effective idea of white supremacy. The same concept of white supremacy is alive and well to this day, and still used as a way of keeping working class whites and non-whites divided to prevent or curb the development of more radical or revolutionary political thought.

Quote:I stopped watching mainstream media years ago, at least for the purpose of getting accurate news.

And still, it has done you no good. The irony of this thinking is that so many people who criticize mainstream media think they are somehow, magically better informed, when this isn't necessarily the case - as you constantly demonstrate. You are just like the wing-nuts who think Alex Jones and InfoWars is a legitimate news source. Your infantile, mechanical understanding of history is a joke - mainstream or not. In short, you're dumb, and the rest of us are getting dumber from reading your ahistorical crud. It's so bad, a part of me still thinks you're a troll and that you write this crap for attention, but that is probably wishful thinking on my part.
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So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-05-2017, 09:17 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-05-2017, 10:31 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Occhidiangela - 01-21-2017, 03:26 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-06-2017, 03:38 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-06-2017, 06:22 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-06-2017, 08:57 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-06-2017, 09:28 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Taem - 01-07-2017, 01:05 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-07-2017, 07:23 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by LennyLen - 01-07-2017, 09:47 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-07-2017, 11:04 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by EspyLacopa - 01-08-2017, 12:51 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-08-2017, 01:13 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-08-2017, 02:40 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-08-2017, 01:06 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-08-2017, 02:46 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-08-2017, 03:01 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-08-2017, 03:16 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-08-2017, 04:37 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-08-2017, 05:18 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-08-2017, 03:44 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by EspyLacopa - 01-08-2017, 04:48 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-08-2017, 06:40 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-10-2017, 12:52 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Archon_Wing - 01-10-2017, 06:25 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-10-2017, 09:30 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-11-2017, 11:48 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-12-2017, 05:25 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-12-2017, 06:32 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-12-2017, 07:04 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-13-2017, 02:53 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-13-2017, 04:26 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-13-2017, 09:02 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-13-2017, 09:53 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-13-2017, 10:10 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-13-2017, 10:01 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-12-2017, 09:16 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-13-2017, 05:27 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-13-2017, 06:34 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-13-2017, 06:44 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-13-2017, 06:50 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Archon_Wing - 01-13-2017, 09:04 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-13-2017, 09:15 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Taem - 01-14-2017, 09:35 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-15-2017, 04:48 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Archon_Wing - 01-15-2017, 12:41 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-15-2017, 06:28 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Taem - 01-18-2017, 07:45 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-18-2017, 10:39 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-18-2017, 11:15 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Archon_Wing - 01-18-2017, 11:48 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-20-2017, 01:45 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Archon_Wing - 01-20-2017, 03:39 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-20-2017, 04:00 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-24-2017, 12:01 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-24-2017, 08:30 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-24-2017, 08:39 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by eppie - 01-25-2017, 07:57 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-25-2017, 05:39 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Taem - 01-25-2017, 08:58 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-25-2017, 09:55 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-26-2017, 03:37 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Bolty - 01-26-2017, 05:10 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-26-2017, 05:41 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-26-2017, 10:10 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-27-2017, 05:07 PM

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