So not a hate crime?
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(01-12-2017, 06:32 PM)FireIceTalon Wrote:
(01-12-2017, 05:25 PM)Ashock Wrote: Yeah, whites already fought for it. Who else did? Africans? Nope. Asians? Nope. Muslims? Nope. As I pointed out earlier, whites are the first ones who abolished slavery. The fact that it exists in certain dark corners of the world is not the doing of white people and has not been for many years now. You remind me of Don Quixote fighting windmills that he imagines are giants

This is the type of historically white-washed revisionist crap that we hear every goddamn day. The so-called 'white savior complex' myth.

White people were NOT the first people to fight slavery or racism, this is historiographical nonsense at its best. Blacks being completely docile and not fighting for their freedom is one of the biggest historical lies and misconceptions of all time:

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/african-american...ves-rebel/

^^That pretty much discredits your entire theory. Perhaps you should learn some REAL history instead of listening to morons like Rush pollute your feeble mind all day long.

Not to mention there were countless, undocumented rebellions and escape attempts from slaves throughout its history, and other larger more famous resistances such as the Hatian Revolution. Blacks were fighting slavery looooooong before the Emancipation Proclamation was even a thought. Blacks also fought in the Civil War itself (with key figures such as Frederick Douglas leading the way), so no, whites do NOT get all the credit for ending slavery either. They certainly get a ton of credit, and rightfully so, for starting it, however.

Quote:If you only concentrate on the past, then you will never understand the present. Yeah, there's a gap, but it's economic not racial. If you have a problem with that, talk to the resident communist.

To understand the present requires an understanding of the past. And you cannot seperate race and class, especially when it comes to the institution of American racism. Class division is the fundamental aspect that has driven human history forward but it would be incorrect to say that in the case of America that there is not a racial element intertwined with it, cause there absolutely is, and it goes all the way back to 1676 with Bacon's Rebellion. And the same concept of white supremacy is used to this very day, since this event, as a way of keeping working class whites and non-whites divided to prevent or curb the development of more radical or revolutionary thought.

Kandrathe need not talk to me about this. Me and him are worlds apart politically speaking, but he correctly pointed out here that you cannot seperate class and race in the context of American history.

Quote:I stopped watching mainstream media years ago, at least for the purpose of getting accurate news.

And it has done you no good. The irony of it is that so many people who criticize mainstream media think they are somehow, magically better informed when this isn't necessarily the case - as you constantly demonstrate. I don't like mainstream media either but just because you stop watching or reading it doesn't make you informed. Your simplistic, mechanical understanding of history is a joke - mainstream or not. In short, you're dumb, and the rest of us are getting dumber from reading your ahistorical crud.

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So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-05-2017, 09:17 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-05-2017, 10:31 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Occhidiangela - 01-21-2017, 03:26 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-06-2017, 03:38 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-06-2017, 06:22 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-06-2017, 08:57 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-06-2017, 09:28 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Taem - 01-07-2017, 01:05 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-07-2017, 07:23 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by LennyLen - 01-07-2017, 09:47 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-07-2017, 11:04 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by EspyLacopa - 01-08-2017, 12:51 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-08-2017, 01:13 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-08-2017, 02:40 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-08-2017, 01:06 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-08-2017, 02:46 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-08-2017, 03:01 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-08-2017, 03:16 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-08-2017, 04:37 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-08-2017, 05:18 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-08-2017, 03:44 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by EspyLacopa - 01-08-2017, 04:48 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-08-2017, 06:40 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-10-2017, 12:52 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Archon_Wing - 01-10-2017, 06:25 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-10-2017, 09:30 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-11-2017, 11:48 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-12-2017, 05:25 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-12-2017, 06:32 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-12-2017, 07:04 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-13-2017, 02:53 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-13-2017, 04:26 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-13-2017, 09:02 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-13-2017, 09:53 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-13-2017, 10:10 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-13-2017, 10:01 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-12-2017, 09:16 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-13-2017, 05:27 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-13-2017, 06:34 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-13-2017, 06:44 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-13-2017, 06:50 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Archon_Wing - 01-13-2017, 09:04 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-13-2017, 09:15 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Taem - 01-14-2017, 09:35 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-15-2017, 04:48 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Archon_Wing - 01-15-2017, 12:41 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-15-2017, 06:28 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Taem - 01-18-2017, 07:45 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-18-2017, 10:39 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-18-2017, 11:15 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Archon_Wing - 01-18-2017, 11:48 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-20-2017, 01:45 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Archon_Wing - 01-20-2017, 03:39 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-20-2017, 04:00 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-24-2017, 12:01 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-24-2017, 08:30 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-24-2017, 08:39 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by eppie - 01-25-2017, 07:57 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-25-2017, 05:39 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Taem - 01-25-2017, 08:58 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-25-2017, 09:55 PM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-26-2017, 03:37 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Bolty - 01-26-2017, 05:10 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by FireIceTalon - 01-26-2017, 05:41 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by kandrathe - 01-26-2017, 10:10 AM
RE: So not a hate crime? - by Ashock - 01-27-2017, 05:07 PM

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