So not a hate crime?

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reports that they are not a peaceful kind

Which isn't a bad thing, necessarily. Since the police officers who harass, assault, profile, and murder unarmed and innocent poc EVERY day are far from being peaceful. When you oppress people, they are going to rise up against you at some point, often violently so, and in such a case, its justifiable. BLM is hardly revolutionary at this time, and from my perspective, I think they need to radicalize further than they are currently. But I digress.

Ah, well that can be up for discussion. But my main point was that the media isn't necessarily biased for them. Some outlets might be and I tend to get worried when they put their own value judgements in, telling you how to think. But in the end, I'm a pleb that got much of my info from "mainstream" outlets and they still haven't deceived me into thinking they were pure and white (whoops).

that is a white person can still suffer from the effects of of the establishment too; it's not a zero sum game.

They do, but not to nearly the same extent or context that blacks and other poc do. Statistics across the board reflect this - from unemployment, income, to education, access to healthcare, life expectancy, poverty and homelessness, percentage of people incarcerated, everything really.

I like to think about as apples and oranges. (Kinda like pick your oppression?).

But the sentiment I've been reading is that there might be some white people that feel like they're being constantly held accountable for things or maybe their opinion doesn't matter as much as a result. So sometimes the left might go a bit far. For example, it's a no-brainer for me to suggest that as a dude, that when I walk home at night alone that I don't have to worry as much about sexual harassment as a female. But then you have all those "Men are rapists" crowd.

Umm, and yea class is buried underneath all this, almost intentionally. And I do see the opposite of extremeness identity politics on both ends-- I guess nobody's shit stinks. And I will have to wrap things up before MCcarthy rises from his grave and comes after me. I'd watch out if I were you, though.