The Great Global Warming Swindle
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(01-26-2017, 09:39 PM)Ashock Wrote: I bet you that in 10 years, this fad will be over with.


If temperatures around the world had begun to consistently fall, or at least stay relatively the same, you would perhaps be right. But that hasn't been the trend for decades now. And further, your proposal would require some substantial material change(s) for a reversal in current climate conditions to take effect (if that's even possible, which is a more complicated and unsettled question than the existence of climate change itself which is already established), and it would likely take longer than 10 years for that be quantifiable, but I do not see that happening either way. Global warming is a (unfortunate) fact, and it is here to stay - at least for the forseeable future.

It is not a fad, but a real world issue that is easily observable, backed by reliable evidence and data, regardless of how much you want to personally politicize it. Granted, climate change is political, but it is so in a systemic context, and not one of personal, subjective political convictions as you are making it out to be.

And yes, there has been climate change in the past, but that does not mean the causes of past climate changes are the same, either qualitatively or quantitatively, as this current one. The evidence seems to indicate otherwise:

http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

As I see it, the question of global warming is not one of its existence (this is indisputable), or one of it being human-made (this is nearly indisputable), but one of whether or not it can be stopped, or reversed.

Quote:I also find it interesting that the proponents of this re-distribution of wealth masked as concerned citizens of the world, cause this:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/pa...-1.2450920

You'd think that they practiced what they preached, but no... that's not the liberal way.

Politicians alone, be they liberal or conservative, or anything else, are not the cause of global warming - they simply contribute to it like the rest of us. Sure, there is some irony in world leaders flying in their personal airplanes that emit tons of environmental harming carbon fuel into the air, to a meeting about climate change of all things, but again, this has far more to do with the system and productive forces of society, and their practicality, than it does with the political affiliation of politicians, or people in general.

I would prefer to not eat any processed foods, or wear clothes and shoes that weren't made by some poor worker in China or Honduras, or more closely related to this specific topic, not drive a vehicle that uses energy from fossil fuels. But is it really practical to do any of this, at least in a meaningful consistent way, under the present circumstances? Not really. Capitalism is a global system and not a lifestyle, and it is a system which puts constraints on our lifestyles and actions in general regardless of what or how strong our political convictions may be. And this applies to all persons, regardless of their class and how much power they may wield. Most choice is an illusion.
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The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Ashock - 01-25-2017, 05:43 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Lissa - 01-26-2017, 02:27 AM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Lissa - 01-26-2017, 03:23 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by eppie - 01-26-2017, 05:46 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Ashock - 01-26-2017, 06:54 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by eppie - 01-31-2017, 07:44 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Jester - 01-28-2017, 03:33 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by eppie - 01-31-2017, 07:29 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Lissa - 01-31-2017, 10:01 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Ashock - 01-26-2017, 05:18 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Lissa - 01-26-2017, 06:51 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Taem - 01-26-2017, 05:59 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Ashock - 01-26-2017, 07:40 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Lissa - 01-26-2017, 07:51 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Ashock - 01-26-2017, 09:39 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by FireIceTalon - 01-26-2017, 09:59 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Ashock - 01-27-2017, 05:05 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Ashock - 01-27-2017, 07:51 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Ashock - 01-30-2017, 07:02 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by DeeBye - 01-29-2017, 04:50 AM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by LavCat - 01-29-2017, 07:02 AM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Ashock - 01-30-2017, 09:26 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Ashock - 01-30-2017, 09:53 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Ashock - 02-06-2017, 09:18 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Ashock - 02-13-2017, 05:02 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by eppie - 02-28-2017, 08:12 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Ashock - 03-01-2017, 06:25 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Ashock - 03-02-2017, 09:30 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Lissa - 03-03-2017, 07:05 PM

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