The Great Global Warming Swindle
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(01-28-2017, 02:58 PM)kandrathe Wrote:
(01-26-2017, 05:46 PM)eppie Wrote:
(01-26-2017, 02:55 PM)kandrathe Wrote: No matter how green we get now, it's moot if greater Asia continues its meteoric increases in burning fossil fuels.

Well, greater asia is doing a much better job than countries like the US, canada, australia and the Netherlands....yes they have more people of course but per person they are not even close to what we polute.
Doing, no. What they are doing is catching up to our consumption. Buying automobiles, building coal fired plants, routing power lines to their populace. The US and Europe consumer portion per person is higher, but declining.

On a 12-month rolling total basis, electric power sector CO2 emissions are now regularly below transportation sector CO2 emissions for the first time since the late 1970s.

Peak energy consumption is here

Quote:More than 98% of serious scientist agree. The 2% that don't usually have a hidden agenda. Most of those people are sponsored by big oil or coal.
This is more of a political statement, as is the funding of climate scientists. The whole kit is rife with confirmation bias. Science, as you know, is the pursuit of truth, even when it runs contrary to your hypothesis. Is it not disengenuous to imply the scientists funded by private industry are in the pocket, but those funded by the opposition are not? Are not scientists and the pursuit of truth equally incorruptible, or as you infer corruptible?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/patrickmicha...e-science/

I'm not a climate change skeptic. I am a climate scientist skeptic. I have little trust of this incestuous mob of witch burners. If they were truly scientists, they would fully embrace the contrary views, and the opportunity to disprove them with the power of science. But, the whole mess is more reminiscent of the inquisition out to purify the faithful.

China is doing much more on renewable energy than we are doing. Of course they are also catching up and consuming more and more but next to that they do much more than most western countries (except for countries such as Sweden and Denmark).

The lobby against climate change is only about 800 times bigger than the total funding for scientists that are working on serious climate change.

It is also not even a very difficult piece of science....if there wasn't such a big interest of old money to keep digging cole and oil we would have had consensus already in the beginning of the 90s.

Most people working on climate change are working on estimating how much the temps will rise when we do thing a or thing b. Nobody is working on evidence because it is already as clear as is gravity......there might be some details slightly of but it is a solid piece of work.
Again.....climate science is not the most difficult thing scientists are investigating...far from that.

(01-30-2017, 07:02 PM)Ashock Wrote: There is no reason to be surprised. Notice how the usual response by progressives to someone who does not agree with them is immediately accusatory. Nazi, racist, misogynist, homophobe etc etc. They don't argue your points, they simply accuse.
They are very tolerant... as long as you agree with their views. When you don't, you are Hitler.

This is no different.

Ashok, not ''someone''......you! And I dont think someone is far off when he calls you any of these things.(I mean I only base myself on what you write on this forum.....maybe in real life you are actually a very nice considerate person).


That said, this doesn't have anything to do with climate change which to me doesn't need to be up for discussion.....apart from when we disagree on what to do about it.

Or maybe do you want to start discussing the speed of light next? Evolution? Gravity? Periodic Table of the elements?
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The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Ashock - 01-25-2017, 05:43 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Lissa - 01-26-2017, 02:27 AM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Lissa - 01-26-2017, 03:23 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by eppie - 01-26-2017, 05:46 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Ashock - 01-26-2017, 06:54 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by eppie - 01-31-2017, 07:44 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Jester - 01-28-2017, 03:33 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by eppie - 01-31-2017, 07:29 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Lissa - 01-31-2017, 10:01 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Ashock - 01-26-2017, 05:18 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Lissa - 01-26-2017, 06:51 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Taem - 01-26-2017, 05:59 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Ashock - 01-26-2017, 07:40 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Lissa - 01-26-2017, 07:51 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Ashock - 01-26-2017, 09:39 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Ashock - 01-27-2017, 05:05 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Ashock - 01-27-2017, 07:51 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Ashock - 01-30-2017, 07:02 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by DeeBye - 01-29-2017, 04:50 AM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by LavCat - 01-29-2017, 07:02 AM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Ashock - 01-30-2017, 09:26 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Ashock - 01-30-2017, 09:53 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Ashock - 02-06-2017, 09:18 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Ashock - 02-13-2017, 05:02 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by eppie - 02-28-2017, 08:12 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Ashock - 03-01-2017, 06:25 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Ashock - 03-02-2017, 09:30 PM
RE: The Great Global Warming Swindle - by Lissa - 03-03-2017, 07:05 PM

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