Winning!

[Lissa]

This thread's a great example of how so many things get derailed so badly here.

• Original Poster comes in with an agenda, stating their opinion on something in a mildly incendiary way ("This is what liberals are fighting for. Grats!").

See Bolty, this is the false assumption right here. If you haven't noted of late, all of Ashock's threads he's started have had a hidden agenda from the get go. In essence, what FiT is saying (one of the rare occurence I agree with him) is that Ashock has been trolling of late. This is why I didn't get involved in the thread till you made this post, I realized it was troll bait and Ashock had an agenda that was hidden in the way he set up the thread. This has been Ashock's modus operandi lately.