Communism and the Left
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(07-15-2017, 05:37 AM)Taem Wrote: So the actuality of your belief system resides in your daddy issues?


Apparently, you cannot read. My dads views are just one, among thousands, of confirmations as to why I am a communist. No, I didn't become a communist because of my dad. I became a communist mostly because after reading Marx and Engles and seeing that their analysis of human society was overall correct and the best explanation for the worlds workings. Also, observing the material workings of the world contributed to my politics as well.

Quote:More rope?

There is already more than enough rope to hang the capitalists.

Quote:His views don't represent mine or anybody elses and from what I can tell, can hardly be considered the norm among the majority of people in this society.


Whether his views represent yours or anyone elses is not the point here. What is the point his views are conducive to the internal logic of the capitalist system: that profit supersedes human need and rights. Always.

As for his personal convictions, yea, they probably don't align with that of most people. To not only be ok with children starving to death, but to actually WISH it upon them is beyond sociopathic and cruel, and a completely untenable position both politically and morally. But when I say people, I say people in general, not capitalists. Most people are not capitalists. And when you put things into perspective for most people by explaining to them capitalism's internal logic (without even having to use the words "communism" or "socialism"), and what the consequences of that logic are, most of them are rational enough to see what you mean. I'm pretty certain that my dads view is indeed in the vast minority, and that most people do not condone children starving, war, poverty, and all the other social ills in the world. It is for that reason (among others) why a better world and alternative social organization of our species is possible in the first place. But again, whether most people do not condone such things wasn't the point - the point was is that it directly follows the ideological underpinnings of both capitalisms goals and its history.

That being said, I do not doubt that most or at least many capitalists think like he does. Maybe not to the extent that they WISH children would starve, but most of them probably view them as simple collateral damage or just an unfortunate consequence in profit making machine - "children starve to death or get killed in air strikes?? That's unfortunate, but I still need to make a bigger profit than I did last year". Most capitalists have an elitist view of workers and view the poor as being nothing more than leeches on society or cannon fodder for their wars for profit.

Quote:Your point-of-view is clearly distorted by your conditioned brainwashing


Rolleyes Says the guy who has never used an ounce of critical thinking in his life. At least, not here you haven't. Your very posts here shows it is you who is brainwashed comrade. You are in utterly no position to call anyone else brainwashed, or denounce the communist view as distorted.

Quote:Better luck in the next life comrade.

I'm sure this is what most churches tell the poor. A perfect example of why religion goes so hand in hand with capitalism. Suffer in this life but you will be in paradise in the next one! (There is no next one btw, but ssshhh, don't tell anyone that!). Even if there was a "next" life, why the fuck should people have to suffer in this one to enjoy the next one?

Quote:Do people follow the 65mph speed limit laws in LA? They don't here.

I don't think it is absolutely necessary to follow the speed limit down to the exact mph. What is important is that you drive with the flow of traffic, and that you drive prudently and not do stupid things like texting and trying to watch the road at the same time.

But if people do exceedingly break the speed limit, its probably because they are trying to rush to their masters domain in time to punch the time-clock, lest they be late to slave duty and cutting into the time for which they must produce value for their master to expropriate and risk being fired or reprimanded in some other way.
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"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)
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Communism and the Left - by Taem - 07-13-2017, 05:14 PM
RE: Communism and the Left - by FireIceTalon - 07-13-2017, 05:52 PM
RE: Communism and the Left - by Archon_Wing - 07-14-2017, 06:31 AM
RE: Communism and the Left - by FireIceTalon - 07-14-2017, 02:14 PM
RE: Communism and the Left - by kandrathe - 07-14-2017, 05:23 PM
RE: Communism and the Left - by Taem - 07-15-2017, 05:48 AM
RE: Communism and the Left - by kandrathe - 07-15-2017, 06:25 AM
RE: Communism and the Left - by FireIceTalon - 07-15-2017, 03:16 PM
RE: Communism and the Left - by Taem - 07-16-2017, 06:53 AM
RE: Communism and the Left - by FireIceTalon - 07-16-2017, 02:43 PM
RE: Communism and the Left - by kandrathe - 07-17-2017, 12:40 AM
RE: Communism and the Left - by FireIceTalon - 07-14-2017, 05:47 PM
RE: Communism and the Left - by kandrathe - 07-14-2017, 08:09 PM
RE: Communism and the Left - by FireIceTalon - 07-15-2017, 02:58 AM
RE: Communism and the Left - by Taem - 07-15-2017, 05:37 AM
RE: Communism and the Left - by FireIceTalon - 07-15-2017, 02:45 PM
RE: Communism and the Left - by eppie - 07-15-2017, 02:02 PM
RE: Communism and the Left - by kandrathe - 07-15-2017, 02:18 PM
RE: Communism and the Left - by FireIceTalon - 07-15-2017, 07:52 PM
RE: Communism and the Left - by FireIceTalon - 07-17-2017, 05:03 AM
RE: Communism and the Left - by kandrathe - 07-17-2017, 02:54 PM
RE: Communism and the Left - by FireIceTalon - 07-17-2017, 04:10 PM
RE: Communism and the Left - by kandrathe - 07-17-2017, 08:03 PM
RE: Communism and the Left - by Ashock - 07-17-2017, 09:26 PM
RE: Communism and the Left - by kandrathe - 07-17-2017, 11:16 PM
RE: Communism and the Left - by FireIceTalon - 07-17-2017, 11:21 PM
RE: Communism and the Left - by Ashock - 07-17-2017, 11:46 PM
RE: Communism and the Left - by FireIceTalon - 07-18-2017, 12:15 AM
RE: Communism and the Left - by kandrathe - 07-18-2017, 02:02 AM
RE: Communism and the Left - by FireIceTalon - 07-18-2017, 02:04 AM
RE: Communism and the Left - by kandrathe - 07-18-2017, 03:41 AM
RE: Communism and the Left - by FireIceTalon - 07-18-2017, 04:03 AM
RE: Communism and the Left - by FireIceTalon - 08-01-2017, 09:57 PM
RE: Communism and the Left - by kandrathe - 08-02-2017, 06:29 AM

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