07-17-2017, 04:10 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-17-2017, 08:02 PM by FireIceTalon.)
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About 20-25K people starve to death per day under capitalism, most of them children age 5 or under via preventable causes. Do the math.
For real, I'm done with this silly thread. The steaming turd of a system known as capitalism has killed more people in the last 10 years alone than even the most inflated totals who died under so-called "communist" regimes given by bourgeois historians. It isn't even close, especially if we take the totality of capitalism's 300+ year history into account. One comrade did provide some numbers:
Ouch. And even if some of these numbers are inflated - or you only counted certain events based on specific personal criteria, the resulting number would still easily eclipse even the most outrageous estimates of those who died under all "communist" regimes combined, multiple times over. And of course, there is the argument that the deaths under those regimes themselves can be attributed to capitalism, since it was the capitalist countries who were the aggressors and waged an international war to contain socialism and do everything in their power to ruin it - rather than it being attributed to some inherent flaw of socialism itself.
And finally, this list doesn't even include: early and undocumented deaths from being overworked, lack of health care. Then, there is the non-lethal effects, such as mental neurosis from the everyday stress that results from living and working under capitalism – these incalculable points are massive, along with every other non-death related crime committed by the capitalist system.
Anyways, before I exit this dumb thread which should have never been created in the first place, I will quote a fellow comrade regarding the original topic:
About 20-25K people starve to death per day under capitalism, most of them children age 5 or under via preventable causes. Do the math.
For real, I'm done with this silly thread. The steaming turd of a system known as capitalism has killed more people in the last 10 years alone than even the most inflated totals who died under so-called "communist" regimes given by bourgeois historians. It isn't even close, especially if we take the totality of capitalism's 300+ year history into account. One comrade did provide some numbers:
Quote:1,559,657,267 Murdered in the Name of Profit
Japanese Imperialism 12,705,105
Imperialism is the act of a nation’s ruling class forcing its control over another nation. This is done to gain control of markets, natural resources and labour markets for profit. These things are not spent according to need, but for the profit for a small number of individuals.
Nanking Massacre 300,000
Japanese Bombing of China 71,105
Japanese Imperialism 6,000,000
Japanese Occupation of East Timor 70,000
Japanese Massacre of Singapore 100,000
Japanese Democides 5,964,000
Japanese Germ Warfare in China 200,000
US Actions in Iraq 3,500,000
As usual, people seem to have forgotten that the US constantly supported Saddam throughout his entire reign as ruler of Iraq. They were instrumental in his rise to power as he was an operative of the CIA and was assigned to kill his predecessor. He ultimately failed to kill him, but stayed on as ruler in US favour until the War on Terror.
The Desert Storm War was the US reaction to Saddam’s invasion of Kuwait, until that time Saddam thought as a US client he could do whatever he wanted. When he didn’t lean after that war, Iraq was invaded again. The second time it was for trading oil in Euros, that was the real reason for the second invasion.
Iraq (Germany Selling Poison Gas to Saddam) 400,000
Rebelling Shia Killed by Saddam 300,000
Iraq (Desert Storm) 500,000
US Bombing Iraq Water Supply 1991 500,000
US imposed sanctions on Iraq 1,000,000
Iraq (War on Terror) 1,300,000
US Imperialism 387,697,326
Imperialism is the act of a nation’s ruling class forcing its control over another nation. This is done to gain control of markets, natural resources and labour markets for profit. These things are spent according to need, but for the profit for a small number of individuals.
US Aggression on Latin America 6,300,000
Invasion of the Philippines 650,000
Afghanistan (War on Terror) 1,200,000
Vietnam War – including bombing Cambodia & Laos 10,000,000
Korean War 10,000,000
US Bombing of Yugoslavia 300,000
Iraq-Iran War (US pushed and funded both sides) 1,000,000
US Intervention in the Congo 5,000,000
1898 American War vs. Philippine 3,000,000
Spanish-American War 100,000
US Made Famine in Bangladesh 1974 100,000
US Civil War (War of Financial vs. Agriculture Capitalists) 700,000
Tamils killed by US backed Sri Lankan Gov. 30,000
Palestinians Killed by Israel 1947-2002 826,626
CIA Backed Khmer Rouge 2,035,000
US Backed Dictator General Suharto 1,200,000
Philippine Insurrection (Fighting US Dictator) 220,000
US Revolutionary War 35,700 (if over throwing a monarch in Russia is a crime, it’s a crime in the US as well)
Native American Genocide 95,000,000
Indonesian Anti-Communist Purges 10,000,000
African Slave Trade 150,000,000
British Imperialism 61,500,000
The Bengal Famine of 1943 10,000,000
British Occupation of India 20,000,000
Famine in Held British India 30,000,000
Irish Potato Famine 1,500,000
(British landlords refused to sell remaining potatoes to starving Irish, they said markets demanded they be sold to other British who had more money.)
Other Capitalist Events and Regimes 17,666,000
South African Apartheid 3,500,000
Pre-Communist Russia 1,066,000
Spanish Civil War 400,000
Massacre of the Paris Commune 20,000
First Indochina 1946-1954 1,500,000
Belgian Congo Colonization 1,000,000
French Madagascar 80,000
Nigerian Civil War 1,000,000
Rwandan Genocide 1,000,000
Dutch East Indies 25,000
Second Boer War 75,000
Stateless Capitalist Somalia 1,000,000
Famine of 1932-33 7,000,000
(Famine was made by Kulaks who destroyed massive amounts of crops to protest collectivization)
General Capitalism: 980,488,836
Capitalism: A system designed for the production of commodities for personal wealth not actual need. A system designed to absolutely reject the value of human life in favour of the profit motive.
Union Carbide Bhopal Disaster 15,000
Hurricane Katrina (deliberate faulty construction) 1,836
Industrial Revolution Kids & Adults USA 100,000
Burma-Siam Railroad Construction 116,000
Great Depression (America alone) 12,000,000
Capitalist Policy in India 1947 – 1990 120,000,000
Children Died from Hunger 2009 5,256,000
Children Killed by Hunger or preventable Diseases during the 1990s-present 250,000,000+
Cigarette Related Deaths Worldwide (1960 – 2010) 300,000,000
The World Wars: Imperialism 76,500,000
World War One 16,500,000
World War Two 60,000,000
Nazi Holocaust 12,000,000
Ouch. And even if some of these numbers are inflated - or you only counted certain events based on specific personal criteria, the resulting number would still easily eclipse even the most outrageous estimates of those who died under all "communist" regimes combined, multiple times over. And of course, there is the argument that the deaths under those regimes themselves can be attributed to capitalism, since it was the capitalist countries who were the aggressors and waged an international war to contain socialism and do everything in their power to ruin it - rather than it being attributed to some inherent flaw of socialism itself.
And finally, this list doesn't even include: early and undocumented deaths from being overworked, lack of health care. Then, there is the non-lethal effects, such as mental neurosis from the everyday stress that results from living and working under capitalism – these incalculable points are massive, along with every other non-death related crime committed by the capitalist system.
Anyways, before I exit this dumb thread which should have never been created in the first place, I will quote a fellow comrade regarding the original topic:
Quote:The Nazi’s were NOT socialists. Ownership of production was in the hands of private individuals. Socialism is the opposite. The Nazis believe Aryans were a superior race, socialists believe everyone is equal. Nazis are the opposite of socialism. Stop trying to pass off right wing capitalist crimes onto us.
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"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)
"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)