The Last Jedi (spoilers will be here, you have been warned)

[Lissa]

Not to disparage your argument - you're correct on all counts - but I enjoyed TLJ because I knew it was a Star Wars movie going in, so I turned my brain off.

I'm not sure what people expect out of these movies. I came to see badass moments like Luke getting blasted to smithereens (supposedly) and coming out of the smoke just standing there like nothing happened. That was awesome. I came to see Finn battle Brienne from Game of Thrones. That was also awesome. I hope they bring her (meaningless) character back because she's fun. Evil for the sake of evil, no explanation or backstory needed.

Turn your brain off and just enjoy the ride, man. If you think about ANY Star Wars movie, you'll realize none of them make sense and you quite possibly think differently about the originals because you were a kid when you first saw them. When you're a kid, you don't think about how a tribe of cuddly teddy bears took out a full legion of stormtroopers.

Thing is, this is one of the few Star Wars movies I came out of immediately disappointed by what I had seen. Hell I liked The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones initially, then thought about it and realized they weren't good later. I went into The Last Jedi and was immediately disappointed. Was the Luke bit cool with the walkers, sure, was the bit where Poe was blowing up the deck guns of the dreadnought also cool, yes, was the hyperspace suicide run cool, yes, but there was just so much that didn't hit and was disappointing. Rian Johnson's humor just did not land in most cases in the movie (the only comedic timing items that hit were Chewie trying to eat the roasted Porg and when Rey cuts the boulder in half and it crushes the caretakers' wheel barrow and how they look up and Rey shrinks).

If I were to put the Star Wars movies in order I would go:

1) Empire
2) Hope
3) Rogue One
4) Force
5) Return
6) Revenge
7) Phatnom (because of Duel of Fates bit)
8) Last Jedi
9) Attack