What is "Heard Immunity"?
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(07-23-2022, 09:45 PM)Vandiablo Wrote: Are your thoughts on COVID-19 still the same?

No. I am not one who holds my own thoughts in such high regard that I do not re-examine my beliefs periodically, especially after gaining a better understanding that comes from new evidence or better explanations. (I can provide examples, if you wish.) The important parts are to be able to tell when a change is warranted and why, and to be able to accept that your previous view needed modification, and thus you are not perfectly right about everything. IMO anyone incapable of changing their views should not be a scientist, teacher, manager, or elected official. (I am not advocating mindless "flip-flop", but rational people too often get that label.)

How have my feelings about COVID-19 changed in the past year? That would be a long post, not because of the (few) changes, but more because I have more evidence to back up what I was previously saying.


That was a long-winded way of saying nothing in particular while simultaneously tilting the narrative towards an unconscious sense of "guilt" to the reader for not being mature enough to "change". Bravo on the brainwashing; I bet this works marvelously with college students.



Quote:"Both sides"???? Really? Again? "Feelings about COVID-19" is a complex multidimensional issue. "Both sides" is the cultural war, America's biggest hindrance during its struggle against the virus.


Again with the obfuscation of the real issue, guised behind a smokescreen of "COVID is so complex... you simply cannot understand it all fully!" Reminds me of local pastors preaching about their religion on Sunday morning and when asked a question they don't know themselves, always revert to this same simplistic answer you just provided because it suits their needs without actually addressing that which they do not understand. "Both sides" is a very direct and obvious statement; I am not speaking about Red and Blue, but of those taking a hard-line stance that vaccinations are absolutely necessary for our survival against COVID, and of those diametrically opposed to COVID vaccinations, both for their own various reasons. For you to not be able to see these sides shows you are very clearly closed off to the opinions of half this world. Perhaps you work someplace where everyone is a "yes man" and you are not allowed deductive reasoning?



Quote:"Dropped off", "other things taking its place": Yes, there is a lot of stuff about Ukraine and the effects of the now-super-partisan Supreme Court. If you are so concerned about authoritarian control, you should be concerned about these. But just because these are in the news doesn't mean I have dropped, or been able to drop, my concern about COVID. As a great politician once said, "we can deal with multiple things at once." I still track cases per capita each day, for my county data, state data and U.S. data -- cases, hospitalizations, and yes (still!), deaths. I still wear a mask at stores and to my office's cafeteria and bathrooms. Please remember that the press, both the "MSM" and the more partisan, goes after "shiny"; Covid is no longer shiny.


Indeed, Monkey Pox comes to mind, as well as the shills who had Monkey Pox screaming on MSN and CNN to go get vaccinated against Monkey Pox now! Let me tell you an anecdotal experience of mine that is very personal... my grandfather was a very healthy 80-year old. Four months after receiving the COVID vaccine, he started getting dizzy and falling often and forgetting everything until one day, he gets a blood clot that gives him a stroke and he dies. There is quite a bit of "science" out there currently absolutely proving the COVID vaccine self replicates for a spell producing spike proteins in regular cells, and these spikes grab unto stuff in your body causing blood clots which can be clearly observed with a d-dimer test which where not there before. Here is another tidbit: my son and I are both double-jabbed with the Pfizer vaccine. COVID swept through my house and there a total of seven of us living here. Of the seven of us, only my son and I got severely sick with fevers above 104 for 5-days straight! Everyone else in my house who was NOT vaccinated showed symptoms less that 24-fucking hours and were over it completely! I would like your explanation how the COVID vaccination is doing anything whatsoever because quite literally, every single person I know, hundreds of employees and their families, have all had COVID and none of the vaccinated are any better off than the non-vaccinated. From my perspective, the COVID vaccine is not doing anything to stop the spread, or to alleviate symptoms whatsoever. All the data I've seen saying death rates have gone down since the vaccines introduction do NOT take into account all of the erroneous deaths the CDC reported (and admitted reporting) in the very beginning of the "pandemic" in an effort to track everyone that died with COVID in their body, regardless of how they died or what killed them.



Quote:As for "It is unfortunate that many countries used COVID as a means to both pass and enforce new rules and regulations to otherwise control people" -- are you one of the guys from Michigan who wanted to kidnap the governor? As I've said before, the danger to liberty is far greater from those who feel Jan 6th was justifiable (especially those holding government positions) than to those who are trying to prevent the death and suffering of inevitable biological threats. You are picking the wrong enemy and putting me in danger by doing so. My feelings on this have changed: they have intensified. And do you really need a primer on why rules are necessary for a free society?


Wow, another nice spin there. I never said anything about any of whatever the fuck you're going on about and I don't care about any of that shit either. I'm talking directly and unilaterally about the COVID vaccine. The changes to which I am referring were made under the pretense of a "pandemic" and under "emergency authority". These rules have not been recanted, such as new laws breaking our American 1st amendment rights on social media platforms, laws about gathering, laws violating our HIPPA rights requiring us to show a vaccine passport, etc, etc... Your straw-man attempt to paint me as some type of conspirator raises many flags about you and your agenda. I hope others who read this think deeply about your motives and the efficacy of the COVID vaccine. Let me ask you this, do you not believe in herd immunity (the topic)? Because the very definition of it was stricken from the CDC's website in lieu of some garbage about getting vaccinated.
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What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 04-29-2021, 06:17 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Lissa - 04-29-2021, 11:23 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 05-01-2021, 08:23 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Lissa - 05-02-2021, 02:08 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 05-03-2021, 06:36 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Jester - 05-03-2021, 10:24 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 05-03-2021, 11:22 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by LennyLen - 05-04-2021, 12:00 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by LemmingofGlory - 05-07-2021, 01:42 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Kevin - 05-08-2021, 03:30 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by DeeBye - 05-02-2021, 02:46 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 05-03-2021, 06:12 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Quark - 05-03-2021, 02:53 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by eppie - 05-08-2021, 09:11 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Jester - 05-08-2021, 03:42 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by eppie - 05-09-2021, 07:09 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Jester - 05-09-2021, 05:45 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by eppie - 05-10-2021, 09:02 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Jester - 05-10-2021, 11:43 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Kevin - 05-11-2021, 01:17 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by eppie - 05-12-2021, 04:09 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Lissa - 05-12-2021, 08:48 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by eppie - 05-13-2021, 11:49 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Jester - 05-13-2021, 10:46 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 05-14-2021, 03:45 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by LavCat - 05-14-2021, 05:00 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Jester - 05-14-2021, 12:51 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 05-14-2021, 09:12 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Jester - 05-15-2021, 12:26 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by eppie - 05-14-2021, 02:17 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Jester - 05-14-2021, 02:41 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Bolty - 05-08-2021, 06:22 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by eppie - 05-09-2021, 07:31 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by eppie - 05-09-2021, 07:43 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by LavCat - 05-14-2021, 08:20 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 05-15-2021, 09:54 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Vandiablo - 05-15-2021, 06:49 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 05-15-2021, 09:38 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Vandiablo - 05-19-2021, 04:43 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 05-20-2021, 07:36 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by eppie - 05-15-2021, 12:21 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Vandiablo - 05-18-2021, 03:25 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by eppie - 05-19-2021, 01:37 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by LavCat - 05-18-2021, 04:29 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by LavCat - 05-22-2021, 02:08 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Taem - 06-05-2021, 02:24 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Vandiablo - 06-08-2021, 04:29 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by fresh_meat - 06-28-2022, 03:44 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Vandiablo - 07-23-2022, 09:45 PM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by fresh_meat - 07-28-2022, 04:43 AM
RE: What is "Heard Immunity"? - by Vandiablo - 08-02-2022, 03:21 AM

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