Danes feel Obama is greater than Jesus

[kandrathe]

The question was, are their Christians who see it as a consequence of their religious belief, that they must go out and kill their religious enemies? It seems to me to be obvious that the answer is yes, and not just a tiny handful, either, but a substantial number, many of whom are serving in militaries that afford them exactly that opportunity, in Iraq and in Afghanistan. The question is not about ideal soldiers. The question is about the ones that are actually out there. And it is abundantly clear that there is a non-trivial portion of the military that see their operations as part of advancing an overtly Christian agenda.

I think you should talk to some current and former US military about what they believe. I've never met one that believes they are doing anything more or less than serving their country when called.

But they weren't unnoticed. They were used for proselytizing, not only by some who used them, but by some who issued them. "Spiritually transformed firearms of Jesus Christ?" We're talking about people who see themselves essentially as crusaders, killing the infidel and spreading the good word from inside the military.

Proselytizing? Exactly how was that done? You have a pretty low threshold on what constitutes proselytizing. There might be biblical micro dots on your bowling ball... You never know.

This (not-mysteriously) seems to be restricted to one religion in particular, the one that all the presidents have been, the one that the vast majority of the population adheres to. That's establishment.

No. Establishment is not practice or speech. Establishment is when the government declares a state religion, or prohibits one.

I would sharply disagree that those scopes do not violate the establishment clause. I hope someone takes them to court for it. The Pentagon mentions "In God We Trust," which itself should be removed from the currency, except that nobody has the fortitude to do it.

Fortitude? No. I think its because there is only a small minority that disagree. Besides, the US governments position on religion should be intentionally neutral. Neither supporting or restricting. By requiring "zero" religious speech or expression, they would be endorsing or implementing an atheist world view.

Link's broken. If, guessing from the name of the link, this is just the symbolism used to mark whether something is Kosher, that's hardly in the same class.

The point being that we live with religious icons, phrases, and symbols from many religions all around us. In this case, we've lived with the small stamped code on rifle sights for twenty years. Now, because some atheists discovered it and the press published it, it's suddenly an issue. If I bought an Uzi and found it had the star of David etched upon it, or even a verse from the Talmud or Torah would I be surprised or amused?