Danes feel Obama is greater than Jesus

[kandrathe]

Well this is absolutely true. Just like the many of the supposed bad things about Islam are actually more a cultural thing. People cheering after 9/11 don't do that because they are Muslims, but because they see the USA as enemy.

I have issues with Islam too. From historical writings, I think it is more of a contrived religion based on Mohamed's desire to use his cult of personality to shape his society. Much of the practice and customs of that time are written as "laws" of the religion and the fundamentalists want to take our modern society back to 600AD. Not that fundamentalists in any other religions are all that much better. The people cheering after 9/11 was certainly Palestinians believing that the US was getting their just desserts for their support of Israel. It's still extremely crass to cheer when innocents are killed, whether they be Palestinian, American, or Israeli.

The discussion the last 9 years have especially focused on blaming Islam for everything that was wrong.

I don't blame Islam so much as I blame Wahabists.

Of course another important thing is then also that, knowing this, we should absolutely stop with the religious influence on politics, because as you say, most things they want are cultural, but they use Christianity (religion in general) to obtain power and the votes necessary to influence politics.

It won't happen unless you can stamp out religion, and you won't do that through force, and probably not through coercion. This is why I speak of belief systems, rather than religion. Everyone has a slightly different stand on politics, religion, sexuality, family values, life priorities, etc. etc. And this constitutes their belief system. When you, I and the guy next door have similar belief systems we are less in conflict, and can live harmoniously. Even when we have slight differences, and those differences are protected by our government (freedom of religious expression, or speech), then we can live together harmoniously. But, when there is a subjugated or radicalized minority, we see injustice either as in slavery (or racism), or we have terrorism. Again, just because the Wahabists are a minority, does not mean they are on the right side.

I hope that after your 10s of tries to explain us what you think is a real christian the only answer is somebody that just reads the bible at home, and lives who he thinks he should according to that book. Somebody that is not a member of any community and does not go to church. A real christian will not be popular with christian leaders sadly.

Actually, a good Christian is faithful to their creed, 1) they love God and attempt to be worthy of grace, and 2) they love all people (even the ones that wrong them). If they can do those two things, then all the other things will naturally occur. I think real Christians wouldn't care what other people think.