08-22-2005, 03:02 PM
thanks for the input, although i'm another type of rogue than you are i suppose, my usual standard game rogues definitely come with a s/s in the inventory, for melee levels and duels. on top of which i am definitely unable to beat advocates without my inferno right now. or it would take a LOT of pots)
In standard games i would indeed go with MS, but since this is a LoL variant i'm more in doubt, when dropping the +HP items i have only about 10 more mana than hp, which means the bowls would empty nearly at the same time. Using the red one means i can use the mana for castings of healing, and with the +hp items the healing is better than without. But more importantly since you're on a fixed number of potions every game, using MS would mean my blues go down faster, and be used for hit points, while the red ones will nearly only be of use when i find an Eldritch. i think that, except for a boss here or there, the potion-consumption is lower while using healing (and an SC every now and then) than while using MS.
In standard play with the cheap price of full blues, of course i'd use MS.
another small reason to keep the HP rings around is the potion gathering in church, which i want to do with the least loss of pots, which includes castings of MS or Healing, this way i am usually able to do those levels with one bowl.
As for the helmet, as said in my logs, its the best i've found to date, both in magical properties as in AC, if i found a good +mag helmet i would be wearing it indeed, though i'd rather get a +str helmet for prereqs of armors or simply a +all helmet (not to mention RC). (it is pretty near getting stun on short bows btw, but i can use other bows just as easily so thats not the reason for it, note btw that its not purely for damage, it also increases AC and blocking chance by a small notch.)
The plate is a complicated matter too, as you say correctly it wont help me much in NM or hell, but it does in normal, and since drops are just as good in normal its a good armor to wear while looking for better treasure. I think i'd use the sorcery one in higher difficulty games, but to be honest i'd like some more AC, and my dex is in no way high enough to take care of that by itself. there can be some discussion on what a 'real' rogue needs, i like my rogues being untouchable, instead of taking on one monster at a time for fear of contact. ;)
Of course here too Awesome stuff would be great, but the chance of getting it is rather small.
i jsut arrived back from holiday btw, which explains why i havent been able to continue the char yet.
In standard games i would indeed go with MS, but since this is a LoL variant i'm more in doubt, when dropping the +HP items i have only about 10 more mana than hp, which means the bowls would empty nearly at the same time. Using the red one means i can use the mana for castings of healing, and with the +hp items the healing is better than without. But more importantly since you're on a fixed number of potions every game, using MS would mean my blues go down faster, and be used for hit points, while the red ones will nearly only be of use when i find an Eldritch. i think that, except for a boss here or there, the potion-consumption is lower while using healing (and an SC every now and then) than while using MS.
In standard play with the cheap price of full blues, of course i'd use MS.
another small reason to keep the HP rings around is the potion gathering in church, which i want to do with the least loss of pots, which includes castings of MS or Healing, this way i am usually able to do those levels with one bowl.
As for the helmet, as said in my logs, its the best i've found to date, both in magical properties as in AC, if i found a good +mag helmet i would be wearing it indeed, though i'd rather get a +str helmet for prereqs of armors or simply a +all helmet (not to mention RC). (it is pretty near getting stun on short bows btw, but i can use other bows just as easily so thats not the reason for it, note btw that its not purely for damage, it also increases AC and blocking chance by a small notch.)
The plate is a complicated matter too, as you say correctly it wont help me much in NM or hell, but it does in normal, and since drops are just as good in normal its a good armor to wear while looking for better treasure. I think i'd use the sorcery one in higher difficulty games, but to be honest i'd like some more AC, and my dex is in no way high enough to take care of that by itself. there can be some discussion on what a 'real' rogue needs, i like my rogues being untouchable, instead of taking on one monster at a time for fear of contact. ;)
Of course here too Awesome stuff would be great, but the chance of getting it is rather small.
i jsut arrived back from holiday btw, which explains why i havent been able to continue the char yet.
Characters: Standard Diablo Rogues: 'Paardenpoep' l36, 'Purechocolade' l31; Sorcerers 'Toverkol' l40, 'Zwarte Piet' l32, 'ZureHaring' l28 (no fb), Warrior 'Klotebeest' l29, LoL characters: rogues 'Roggebrood' l26 and 'Ironvrouw' l7, sorcerer ToverLol l20, warrior LolleBolleGijs l16 ironman character name 'Ironlady', read Toverlol's journey log