05-19-2005, 03:23 AM
Abramelin,May 18 2005, 02:58 PM Wrote:If you don't grasp why nobody has a moral right to own anybody,then I can't explain further.Someone can't be given to someone else since humans are not objects.An object can be owned,a subject can't.
You take your right to own your body as granted ,I guess.Then why asking for what is obvious? There is no logical axiom here, it's just a matter of Morality/Ethics.
I thought that it was obvious for everybody that humans are subjects/not objects.
Freedom/free will make them this way.The line is drawn when there is free will.Only humans have this free will.However,even though animals(except Man) don't have free will,they are not objects such as a feather or a stone.They are living beings and as such they deserve respect and their own freedom.
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Them's fightin' words, mister.
Subject: one ruled by a king or other aristocrat. One whose life hinges upon the decisions and good will of said aristocrat. One whose fate and destiny, and freedom, are in every way, shape, and form OWNED and possessed by said aristocrat.
A subject is PWNED in a way a citizen never can be. I own firearms. You try to make a subject of me, I will kill you. Smilie Nazi says "no smilie for you!"
Occhi
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In War, the outcome is never final. --Carl von Clausewitz--
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John 11:35 - consider why.
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In War, the outcome is never final. --Carl von Clausewitz--
Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
John 11:35 - consider why.
In Memory of Pete