12-01-2011, 02:39 AM
(This post was last modified: 12-01-2011, 06:17 PM by FireIceTalon.)
(12-01-2011, 12:31 AM)Ashock Wrote:(11-30-2011, 03:42 AM)FireIceTalon Wrote:(11-30-2011, 12:16 AM)Ashock Wrote:(11-23-2011, 09:23 PM)FireIceTalon Wrote: Faux News, serving up lies, straw-man arguments, propaganda, and false consciousness at a TV near you. Viewers discretion advised. Rated PU for Practically Unwatchable.
To be fair, I don't care much for MSNBC either, however. Regular "Liberals" are sell-outs who love capitalism almost as much as conservatives do and have no desire to replace the system, only to reform it a bit. Which of course, will never ever work. And then, you have Faux News watchers who think MSNBC and its audience are all a bunch of Commies, which is a complete insult to real Marxists everywhere. It is quite annoying.
Ahh, the "real" Marxists... Of course, we should never insult them, because they have so much to teach us. They've already taught us much. If only they had 10-20 more years, things would have turned out so much better.
Sigh. I know I'm just feeding the troll here, but I'll bite.
First, it seems you are one of those Tea Baggers who thinks anyone who is slightly to the left of your ridiculous reactionary views, is automatically a Socialist. Which is an insult to both the person you are accusing, and Socialists themselves. Second, you clearly have no clue what Marxism even is, nor what you are talking about in general. Then again, you are the same person who posted in the Occupy thread that thinks we live in a perfect meritocracy, even though you were proven wrong by numerous people (including myself) to the point that you couldn't respond. When you educate yourself a little bit, instead of posting straw-man arguments, perhaps we will have something to talk about. But thus far, you are 0 for 2 against me.
I am 0 for 0 against you, actually. Your statements are generally so inane, that going against you is akin to arguing with a 5 year old about the virtues of nuclear power. Don't flatter yourself, please.
The reason that I did quote your posts a couple of times, is that some of your statements are so outlandish, that I simply need to politely point that out. This amuses me. Besides, trolling a troll is hardly a crime.
Now, as far as me not having a clue about Marxism, really you should quit while you're still significantly behind, my communist friend.
BTW, how did you celebrate November 7th? Did you demonstrate? Did you occupy?
ps. Dzerzhinsy and Sverdlov say hi.
pps. Beria was a pedophile.
Now you are 0-3. But the 3-strikes law has always been a sham if you ask me, I don't want you to go out like that, thus I will now pull the final Ace in the deck....
Ad-hominems and 'appeal to belief' fallacies will not help your case. If you are so all knowing and I am so wrong on every account, PROVE IT. If all my statements are based on the intellect of a 5-year old, again, PROVE IT. If you have a fundamental and detailed understanding of Marxism, PROVE IT (I have a thousand dollars that says you have never read a single page in The Manifesto, and that you merely wish you were on my level in having an understanding of Marxist theory, so you could use it as a basis to replace your currently baseless argument) . I'm behind? You're funnier than Eddy Griffin. You've yet to even ATTEMPT to disprove any argument that I've put forth against you, let alone actually succeed in refuting them. Only one behind is you my reactionary, uninformed Faux News kool-sippin' rival. All you can do is dodge the issues and resort to personal attacks and excuses when you are backed into a corner.
ANY further insults, tangents about Occupy, Soviet officials that had zero to do with Marxism whom I could care less about, or otherwise dubious procrastination will just confirm to me that you aren't capable of intellectual discussion or critical thinking. Me and Kandrathe agree on very little, but manage to have some interesting debates. I don't think you can do it, now is your chance to prove me wrong. You're not gonna let someone with the intellect of a 5-year old get the best of you now, are you?
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"Your very ideas are but the outgrowth of conditions of your bourgeois production and bourgeois property, just as your jurisprudence is but the will of your class, made into law for all, a will whose essential character and direction are determined by the economic conditions of the existence of your class." - Marx (addressing the bourgeois)
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